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Which is crazy cause Rookie QB + bad offensive line always ends terribly
 

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Pats choke another one anyway. Fumble at the 10
 

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Pats had 1 job to do. Score more points than the other team.
 

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2 different things
Vikings lose against Buffalo and Commanders, and Giants and lose even worse against Detroit without JJ. He is carrying the team and less than 250 yards from 2k. He will get votes.
 

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This Pats/Cincy game goes to show you how much extra points matter. Both kickers missed one. Hell, McPhereson missed a 2nd that was wiped out cause of a penalty
 

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Vikings lose against Buffalo and Commanders, and Giants and lose even worse against Detroit without JJ. He is carrying the team and less than 250 yards from 2k. He will get votes.
Ok sure he’ll get a vote or 2 but there’s no realistic way he contends
 

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This Pats/Cincy game goes to show you how much extra points matter. Both kickers missed one. Hell, McPhereson missed a 2nd that was wiped out cause of a penalty

He also missed a Fg but I was there for half the game it’s fuckkng cold that ball is probably a brick


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Which is stupid. Just call the MVP the Most Valuable Passer award at this point.
Let’s use your argument against you…

If Chad Henne starts all year, are the Chiefs were they are?

If Gardner Minishew starts all year, are the Eagles Super Bowl favorites?

MVP maybe a QB biased award but it’s hard to argue those QBs value
 
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