THE MIZ
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Dolph'sZiggler said:
I honestly disagree...
Cesaro V Miz is a great match to watch and they know it, but they can't put all the goods in the PPV and leave all the shit for the pre-show, as they want something good to make people interested in the pre-Show.
They are very high on Antonio, and there is no way they are preferring this shit on him.
Ambrose said:
I was making the point that being in the pre-show doesn't mean you are irrelevant.
And no, Miz is not a jobber, he is a talented superstar, a good wrestler and a great talker.
Ambrose said:Can you build a case saying otherwise?ity1:
Sure I can.
Would a jobber be used as one of WWE's most used media personalities? Miz does more media appearances for the company than most WWE wrestlers do. He's also starring in two WWE movies in 2013.
Miz is used on almost every RAW and every Smackdown.
Miz has a decent win/loss record for the second half of 2012. Winning more than losing.
The WWE and Ric Flair sees enough faith in him to give him the figure four leglock as a move.
The guy is known as one of the best mic workers today and can carry most guys on the stick.
Miz has during 2012 shown a wast level of improvement in ring. Having developed a better fitting style for him. He's never going to be a technician, nor a high flyer or a monster brawler. But he is and will be a good all-rounder.
I have a hard time seeing a guy that is given at least five minutes of TV time per episode, has held every belt in the WWE but one. Is booked on almost every PPV and has an even win/loss record a jobber. Miz is an upper midcarder. He'll likely never main event a Wrestlemania again in the near future but he will do well in the upper midcard. He is filling the same role that guys like Jericho and Christian have/had. The guy who is reliable, trustworthy and can be used in multiple fields on the show.
Is Miz a great wrestler? No. Is Miz a bad wrestler? No. Is he a main eventer? Not at the moment no but he isn't a jobber either. He's an upper midcarder helping establish new talent, helping media relations for the company and re establishing the midcard (something we have been complaining about the lack of for a while). It is a position that fits him just fine.
I don't see a problem with him in matches with random stars. They still build towards his match with Cesaro. Either by commentary or by some form of interaction. Not every feud can consist of guy A wrestling guy B 4000 times. You're bound to wrestle random guys or float about from time to time. Miz isn't a jobber, otherwise he would just be put out there to lose ala Zack Ryder or JTG. He's an upper midcarder. Being used as a story catalyst, either for his own current feud with Cesaro. Or helping advance other feuds by providing a stage for it with Miz TV.Jose Tortilla said:
Stopspot said:
Yeah but he's wrestling D-Young. Unfair imo, because PTP are over as fuck..
That's what is bothering me a bit.
Jose Tortilla said:
PTP in my opinion is also a star that has dimmed a bit (like the Miz falling from main event status to upper mid card) but that comes with being a tag team wrestler and working for Vince McMahon. Plus in traditional wrestling mind sets. If you are a tag team wrestler you will lose if you face a singles guy one on one unless you are a main event tag team (Rhodes Scholars and Hell No currently) That's the same way it worked for the New Age Outlaws. They were over as hell but still jobbed to the singles guys.
Miz might not be as over as he was during his Mr. MITB heel run but to say he doesn't get a reaction is a lie. He's still over and popular (otherwise Vince wouldn't use him the way he does). Admittedly he hasn't found his perfect spot as a babyface yet but that can only improve by having him work.
Stopspot said:
This sentence was just enough..
You don't have to teach me how it works, Stop.
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I know that mate. I just prefer explaining myself so as to avoid being misunderstood. Either by you or someone else.Jose Tortilla said:This sentence was just enough..
You don't have to teach me how it works, Stop.
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