the biggest star to come out of wrestling?

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Crayo said:
Knew you'd comment on that, that stick is really shoved far up the cake hole. Rock is undoubtedly the most successful star to come out of wrestling.

I don't really give a damn about your opinion bro, no stick up my ass. It's just one of your ongoing things that you are wrong about; like TNA's advertising for example.
 

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Whatever helps you sleep broski :pity1:.

IMO Rock is, considering how he's becoming one of the leading actors in Hollywood... Hogan could never say that. Sure he was a star for a period because of wrestling, but the question is who's the biggest star to come out of wrestling, and surely Rock going from WWE's #1 to rebuilding franchises in the acting scene, making a ton of money, being a leading actor, getting roles in massive films, I would say it's him. Again, in my opinion. I can't help that you absolutely adore Hogan, that's fine, me disliking Hogan as a TNA character makes no difference to my answer to this very open question.
 

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You are just playing with the semantics of "coming out of wrestling"

it doesn't mean who was the biggest star outside of wrestling. He just means the wrestler who had the most fame. Hulk and rock are 1 and 1a, arguments can be made for either.
 

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If you think Rock is a bigger star in 2012 than Hogan was in the late 80s/early 90s that's fine, but my thing is let's not sit here and pretend it isn't a close race between the two. It absolutely is. Hogan was HUGE. I've conceded that arguments can be made for either
 
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dethfvk said:
Lol. Hulk is the greatest wrestling ''superstar'' ever. How can someone even deny that?

Thread isn't about that though man. Also, the debate of who the greatest wrestling superstar ever is just that, a very debatable subject, so it's easily denied.

Dolph'sZiggler said:
If you think Rock is a bigger star in 2012 than Hogan was in the late 80s/early 90s that's fine, but my thing is let's not sit here and pretend it isn't a close race between the two. It absolutely is. Hogan was HUGE. I've conceded that arguments can be made for either

Yeah I agree, it's incredibly close, but I genuinely think Rock has relatively recently taken that step to the top because of how successful he is in Hollywood. He was already quite a popular guy because of his Rock persona, that broke into the main stream. Not as much as Hogan but he was there, but his acting career is an undoubted success which tips it for me. It's close, but Rock conquering Hollywood as something other than a wrestler makes me think Rock is on top in relations to this question.

"Who's the biggest star wrestling has produced?" would be Hogan's all day if it means who BECAUSE of wrestling became a star in mainstream media. No acting or anything else related.
 

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Hogan was an actor though, and he was in a few well known movies. Not to the point of The Rock, but he was well known for some of his movie roles. Hogan's role in Rocky 3 was very mainstream... his Suburban Commando, Thunder in Paradise, and Mr Nanny roles also come to mind.

Also you don't give Hogan enough credit for "Hogan Knows Best"- a pretty popular reality show that introduced him to a different & younger audience 5 or 6 years ago.
 

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Lets take a view at orher wrestlers you'll be stoked to know dude.In the 420 community Rob Van Dam no doubt dude, like he gets higher views then everyone else, it's far out.
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
He and Hulk are 1 and 1A. Neither is very far ahead of the other.

Eh, maybe. I know for sure that more people will recognize The Rock than Hulk. These people not being wrestling fans.
 

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Hulk Hogan put wrestling on the map and helped it become mainstream acceptable entertainment for the first time. He is also the only guy who has had a major impact (in terms of business) in two different wrestling companies, as he was also a major piece of helping give WCW their huge run in the late 90's, beating WWF in the ratings for two years. He is also similar to how people like Tyson/Ali are to boxing, or how Michael Jordan is to basketball, in the sense that even if you don't watch wrestling, 99% of people will still know who Hulk Hogan is and that they can (to this day) attach his name to wrestling.

Steve Austin drew more money than anyone, as did The Rock (some make the argument that Rock has actually drawn more money then Austin overall, especially with the success of WM27 and WM28, but that's a different story.) However, business was different when Austin and Rock came along, and they were put more into a position where they could draw more money (like having a PPV every month, which wasn't around in Hogan's day.) Also, Austin doesn't have the kind of mainstream popularity that Hogan has, and Rock does mainly because of his Hollywood career. I also feel Hogan's actual wrestling career is still more significant, as it lasted longer. Hogan was a part of more feuds that were a big deal than Austin and Rock were. Wrestlemania 3, for example, was a much bigger deal to me than anything that happened in the AE.

I guess you could add Brock if we just count fame based on anything, regardless of whether it was achieved in wrestling or not.

So, counting overall fame when it comes to guys who started out in wrestling, I do think it's fair to rank them as Hogan/Rock, and then Lesnar.
 
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Solidus said:
Eh, maybe. I know for sure that more people will recognize The Rock than Hulk. These people not being wrestling fans.

In 2012.

I'm comparing the Rock in 2012 to Hogan in whatever year was his prime. Maybe '96

also if anyone doesn't know who Hulk Hogan is they are pretty dumb and must live under a rock. Seriously.
 

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Lets call it even, Hogan and Rock #1.
After that... maybe Cena or Flair?

Not sure how recongnizable Austin is among non-wrestling fans.