The 2024 United States Presidential Election Thread

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That number might be way, way lower than you think, tbh.

It's hard to say though, because you can only go with so much you see online. You can't just say "They're all bots" and that's that, because it gives the (maybe surprisingly high) number of actual people who do support it, a very good possibility to hide.

I don't say you're wrong, of course. We just don't really know and that is dangerous.

I believe most supporting it wrongfully think everyone affected wasn't a citizen of the country and shouldn't be allowed to vote. Some also might think it's a cost you have to take that some citizens will be fucked over to protect illegals from voting.

I don't think many straight up support what happened without having to call reports some version of fake news
 
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Don't forget the attempts by Republicans to make sure soldiers overseas can't vote either.
 

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Not when they're not in America!

Because "we don't know if it's *really* them voting!"
we don't like them in america either, costs too much to take care of em after them when they come back with bullet holes and emotional damage. the best soldiers are dead ones
 
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we don't like them in america either, costs too much to take care of em after them when they come back with bullet holes and emotional damage. the best soldiers are dead ones
Hey, the same thing could be said about Fascists and Nazis (read: the people trying to destroy democracy in this country)!
 

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I'm personally still very confident that Kamala is gonna win the election by a fairly moderate landslide, but Trump winning is still something to be extremely concerned about, not just because of his authoritarianism, but because he would by extension give carte blanche for transphobes and anti-LGBTQ people to kill and murder and torture with impunity.
I too think Harris gonna win.

But just like I said in chat... people shouldn't drop it afterwards and be like "Everything's gonna be fine forever now", because there's a good chance the next far-right shithead enters the race in 2028, with the support of Project 28 then.

I do get that people don't wanna have politics thrown at their face 24 hours a day, especially after months and months of an election cycle like you guys always have and I do think y'all deserve a break afterwards... but yea, completely dropping cautiousness is a good fertilizer for the toxic breeding ground.
 

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I believe most supporting it wrongfully think everyone affected wasn't a citizen of the country and shouldn't be allowed to vote. Some also might think it's a cost you have to take that some citizens will be fucked over to protect illegals from voting.

I don't think many straight up support what happened without having to call reports some version of fake news
Very fair, yea
 

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I too think Harris gonna win.

But just like I said in chat... people shouldn't drop it afterwards and be like "Everything's gonna be fine forever now", because there's a good chance the next far-right shithead enters the race in 2028, with the support of Project 28 then.

I do get that people don't wanna have politics thrown at their face 24 hours a day, especially after months and months of an election cycle like you guys always have and I do think y'all deserve a break afterwards... but yea, completely dropping cautiousness is a good fertilizer for the toxic breeding ground.

Also Kamala has her own problems and agendas that I would not particularly like to see repeated at a national level and I don't trust she'll say as "liberal" as she's campaigned of she wins
 
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Hey, the same thing could be said about Fascists and Nazis (read: the people trying to destroy democracy in this country)!
yeah but I actually empathize with the military folks. Fascists and Nazis I only feel bad because their brains get all stuck in the bottom of my boot
 

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And for anyone who think I'm being heavy-handed, let's see what the law says about Treason in the United States...

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

:hmm
 

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Also Kamala has her own problems and agendas that I would not particularly like to see repeated at a national level and I don't trust she'll say as "liberal" as she's campaigned of she wins
Oh yea, of course. Another problem that comes with most eyes always being only on what Trump is doing really.
 

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Tbh wrt Kamala's "liberalness", I do think Tim Walz will serve as a pretty solid counterbalance to her more moderate/centre-right policies.
 

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Also Kamala has her own problems and agendas that I would not particularly like to see repeated at a national level and I don't trust she'll say as "liberal" as she's campaigned of she wins
I mean just look at the Democrats stance on Israel Palestine :ortonout it's not good
 

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I mean just look at the Democrats stance on Israel Palestine :ortonout it's not good

It's rich coming from certain folks but the criticisms of how many people she locked up for minor drug offenses and then used those stats to launch her career was pretty disgusting. That one I don't think she could repeat really tho, it's not a major Dem priority anymore. They don't really combat the "weak on crime" stereotype they get hit with anymore (thankfully)