The 2024 United States Presidential Election Thread

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Everyone involved, from top to bottom, needs to be excised from our very system, and shipped off to a deep dark place forever.
 

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Former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger took a stand



Couple of highlights from that long tweet:
My time as Governor taught me to love policy and ignore politics. I’m proud of the work I did to help clean up our air, create jobs, balance the budget, make the biggest infrastructure investment in state history, and take power from the politicians and give it back to the people when it comes to our redistricting process and our primaries in California.

That’s policy. It requires working with the other side, not insulting them to win your next election, and I know it isn’t sexy to most people, but I love it when I can help make people’s lives better with policies, like I still do through my institute at USC, where we fight for clean air and stripping the power from the politicians who rig the system against the people.

Let me be honest with you: I don’t like either party right now. My Republicans have forgotten the beauty of the free market, driven up deficits, and rejected election results. Democrats aren’t any better at dealing with deficits, and I worry about their local policies hurting our cities with increased crime.
It is a just game to them. But it is life for my fellow Americans. We should be pissed!

But a candidate who won’t respect your vote unless it is for him, a candidate who will send his followers to storm the Capitol while he watches with a Diet Coke, a candidate who has shown no ability to work to pass any policy besides a tax cut that helped his donors and other rich people like me but helped no one else else, a candidate who thinks Americans who disagree with him are the bigger enemies than China, Russia, or North Korea - that won’t solve our problems.

It will just be four more years of bullshit with no results that makes us angrier and angrier, more divided, and more hateful.

We need to close the door on this chapter of American history, and I know that former President Trump won’t do that. He will divide, he will insult, he will find new ways to be more un-American than he already has been, and we, the people, will get nothing but more anger.
 
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I cannot wait for Gorsuch, Alito, and Thomas to be gone from the Supreme Court. We might actually finally have some progress when that day comes
 
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From 2020, btw. He might attempt to try this shit again.
 
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Upper Peninsula Michigan Election Clerks Dismissed Over Hand Counting

LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Two township clerks in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan were removed from their election duties this week after they planned to hand count votes in Tuesday's election, state officials said.

Director of Elections Jonathan Brater said in a letter dated Monday that Rock River Clerk Tom Schierkolk and Deputy Clerk David LaMere intended to conduct a hand count prior to the county process of canvassing the results.

Michigan law requires jurisdictions to use voting machines to tabulate ballots, according to the Secretary of State.

Rock River is about 27 miles (43.45 kilometers) from Marquette, Michigan, and home to just over 1,200 people, according to the 2020 Census.

The election duties of the township will be turned over to the Rock River deputy treasurer with the help of nearby a nearby township clerk, Brater wrote, “in order to ensure public trust and confidence in the integrity and security of elections.”

The letter was first reported by the New York Times.

Schierkolk said in an interview that the people of Rock River requested a hand count be conducted to verify the results tabulated by voting machines in order to “restore public trust in elections." He also questioned Brater's authority to remove him from his election duties and believes that conducting a hand count is legal under Michigan law.

Research shows that machine counting is faster and more accurate than hand counting. Brater said in his letter that the proper procedure following the close of polls is to store tabulated ballots in “secure, numerically-sealed containers."

According to the New York Times, Schierkolk insisted in an interview that a hand count would be legal under the state’s constitution.

Failing to comply with the order from his office, which is directed by the Michigan Secretary of State, is a criminal misdemeanor, Brater wrote.

“Your past actions and statements, detailed in prior letters, indicate that you and the deputy clerk are unwilling to fulfill your responsibilities as clerk,” Brater said.

Since former President Donald Trump and his allies have spread lies claiming that widespread fraud cost Trump the 2020 election, some Republicans have sought to replace modern voting machines with the more laborious, error-prone process of hand counting, despite no evidence of widespread fraud or major irregularities.

In 2023, a Republican clerk in Shelby Township, Michigan, was barred by the state from administering elections after he was charged with acting as a fake elector in 2020 for then-President Donald Trump. He pleaded not guilty and is up for reelection as the Shelby Township clerk.