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PSachkovsky said:
Still disrespectful as hell. Another poor attempt at 'cheap heat', because the writers obviously can't come up with their own ways to get CM Punk some heat. They use incidents in real-life just to gain that. First it was the incident with Jerry Lawler's heart attack, than they went on with CM Punk saying something about William Moody's death, totally disrespecting it, just so he can gain yet again 'cheap heat'.

"Punk joked about Taker's loss and claimed that he came out to wish Undertaker his condolences for Taker's upcoming loss at WM 29. Punk also declared that only Paul Bearer would remember The Undertaker as 20-0 and that the rest of the world would remember him as 20-1."

You didn't write the full comment. The fact that they compare the streak to a real-life situation is pathetic and idiotic. I don't know how low they can go, but they really need to switch back to TV-13. Because you can't call yourself a PG rated show, when you can mock someone's heart issues and someone's death on TV. What do children learn from this? To disrespect the dead???

It's not disrespectful really. The only disrespect dished out was that he interrupted the tribute, but that is Punk's character. It's not because they have nothing else to write for him, because it's seriously not hard writing for Punk. It's because WWE want to do something shocking and it does that. Look at us right now, we're talking about it, that's what they want. They have succeeded, and it was a great move.

Why wouldn't Punk do this kayfabe wise? He's a despicable heel with no respect for anyone but himself. Of course he would do this, especially in a feud. Just look at how much heat he got for it last night; people really want Taker to kick his ass now right? Perfect.

I said the same thing regarding the heart-attack and I say the same thing now. We shouldn't care whether it's disrespectful or not, we should only care if the families involved with the unfortunate are okay with it or not. If they're not okay with it and WWE do it anyway, then I will bash the shit out of the company. If the families are okay and the unfortunate live and breathe professional wrestling, then I'm completely fine with it as it doesn't concern me, and we get great edgy TV out of it.

WWE have done much worse than this in the days everyone seemingly begs to come back. It's hypocritical. If you're a fan of PG-WWE and think this breaks it, then don't complain about PG segments regarding Hornswoggle, because that's the product you buy into.
 

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Crayo said:
It's not disrespectful really. The only disrespect dished out was that he interrupted the tribute, but that is Punk's character. It's not because they have nothing else to write for him, because it's seriously not hard writing for Punk. It's because WWE want to do something shocking and it does that. Look at us right now, we're talking about it, that's what they want. They have succeeded, and it was a great move.

Why wouldn't Punk do this kayfabe wise? He's a despicable heel with no respect for anyone but himself. Of course he would do this, especially in a feud. Just look at how much heat he got for it last night; people really want Taker to kick his ass now right? Perfect.

I said the same thing regarding the heart-attack and I say the same thing now. We shouldn't care whether it's disrespectful or not, we should only care if the families involved with the unfortunate are okay with it or not. If they're not okay with it and WWE do it anyway, then I will bash the shit out of the company. If the families are okay and the unfortunate live and breathe professional wrestling, then I'm completely fine with it as it doesn't concern me, and we get great edgy TV out of it.

WWE have done much worse than this in the days everyone seemingly begs to come back. It's hypocritical. If you're a fan of PG-WWE and think this breaks it, then don't complain about PG segments regarding Hornswoggle, because that's the product you buy into.

I've been a fan since 1993. And been through all the shit. You think or a moment, that I didn't bash the WWE for the stupid Big Show/Big Boss Man feud, where Boss Man stole his father's casket from the funeral? You damn right I had a problem with it.

Again, I don't have much problem with the storyline being edgy, I have issues with the WWE claiming it's a PG-rated show and yet they have no problem mocking someone's death on live TV. I think the WWE should fucking go back to TV-13, and stop being a bunch of hypocrites.
 

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PSachkovsky said:
I've been a fan since 1993. And been through all the shit. You think or a moment, that I didn't bash the WWE for the stupid Big Show/Big Boss Man feud, where Boss Man stole his father's casket from the funeral? You damn right I had a problem with it.

Again, I don't have much problem with the storyline being edgy, I have issues with the WWE claiming it's a PG-rated show and yet they have no problem mocking someone's death on live TV. I think the WWE should fucking go back to TV-13, and stop being a bunch of hypocrites.

:facepalm1:

PG stands for Parental Guidance which means you have to have your parents permission to watch it. And it's TV-14 smartass.
 

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PSachkovsky said:
Again, I don't have much problem with the storyline being edgy, I have issues with the WWE claiming it's a PG-rated show and yet they have no problem mocking someone's death on live TV. I think the WWE should fucking go back to TV-13, and stop being a bunch of hypocrites.

So your actual problem with this is from a network director point of view? You care that their PG representation is false and not the actual content in question? That seems something really small to care about, but let me inform you about PG television.

"This program contains material that parents may find unsuitable for younger children under the age of 10.[1]
Programs rated TV-PG contain material that parental guardians may find inappropriate for young children. May contain mild language, mild violence, and/or minimal sexual dialogue/situations."


PG isn't G, it's still somewhat flexible with its content. It doesn't mean kids watch this show, it means kids watch this show if their parents allow them to knowing that it can contain somewhat edgy material. The segment you're angry about (Paul Bearer segment) doesn't break the "PG rules" at all. It doesn't even get close, because they didn't mock him at all. It was a segment built on Punk disrespecting Taker and the situation revolving Paul's death, but he didn't directly mock or insult Paul Bearer.
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Do you know what Paul Bearer would say if he saw you react this way? He'd call you a fucking pussy and tell you to get over it.

Just incase OP didn't read this post.
 

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What was really distasteful about this? Mocking a fake funeral? There isn't much kayfabe left, when you bring up WWE to anyone usually the first word to come out of their mouths is "fake". Nobody bought this as interrupting a real funeral! The only thing you can do is believe in kayfabe logic, Undertaker is fucking pissed, and this went from "next in line" to "legit bloodfeud". And it's a lot better than a stupid fake death angle.

IIRC Punk did nothing to disrespect William Moody the actual person, his ashes weren't in the urn, they got the OK of the family. and they bent over backwards to pay tribute to the guy all night, hell I didn't see much of his career and they gave me goosebumps with this. Much more good than harm came out of this.

About this making kids believe this is okay, if any kid looks up to Punk as a role model then there's a much deeper problem with that kid anyway lmao.
 
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PSachkovsky said:

:pity: The maturity I expected of someone who just can't get over something so small as this. When you get back into the real world, then maybe people won't think you're an idiot.
 

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RiotRaven said:
:pity: The maturity I expected of someone who just can't get over something so small as this. When you get back into the real world, then maybe people won't think you're an idiot.

I have my opinion, you have yours, you don't have to agree with me, but don't think for a second I will let a dumbass like you disrespect me.
 

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PSachkovsky said:
I have my opinion, you have yours, you don't have to agree with me, but don't think for a second I will let a dumbass like you disrespect me.

R-E-S-P-E-C-T
 
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PSachkovsky said:
I have my opinion, you have yours, you don't have to agree with me, but don't think for a second I will let a dumbass like you disrespect me.

The only fact I can say is that everyone but you. (even the guys family) found nothing wrong with what went on. Why do you care so much? I mean really, it's like you're doing this on purpose.
 

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The only fact I can say is that everyone but you. (even the guys family) found nothing wrong with what went on. Why do you care so much? I mean really, it's like you're doing this on purpose.

Because unlike the WWE, I have funds of respect to the people I've been watching on TV as a kid. WWE seems to be unable to respect anyone. They didn't respect Eddie Guerreo's death (Randy Orton comes out and says that Eddie isn't in Heaven, Eddie's in Hell), they didn't respect Jerry Lawler's health issues, and didn't respect Jim Ross, mocking his illness many many times before. They now didn't respect Paul Bearer's memory.
 

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PSachkovsky said:
Because unlike the WWE, I have funds of respect to the people I've been watching on TV as a kid. WWE seems to be unable to respect anyone. They didn't respect Eddie Guerreo's death (Randy Orton comes out and says that Eddie isn't in Heaven, Eddie's in Hell), they didn't respect Jerry Lawler's health issues, and didn't respect Jim Ross, mocking his illness many many times before. They now didn't respect Paul Bearer's memory.

I don't even know where to begin with this. "Funds of respect" clearly English isn't your first language.

Secondly if they didn't have respect, why did they showcase tribute video's of Bearer all night and proceed to ask his friends and family if this was ok?

Thirdly, if it was so disrespectful, Punk could also have chosen not to do it.

Long story short, it happened and if you think WWE is bad because of it. Adios! Cheerio! On your Bike! Clearly you need to understand things before you make posts that show off stupidity.