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I'm a huge fan of Dynesty, with the new Samoans up it will be good. I see gthe fued lasting 2 months then something happening. Hope managment doesn't loose faith in both teams.
 

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I'm a Hart Dynasty fan and everything, and I would love to see them getting into a long time feud with the Samoans, but realistically it won't draw a fucking thing. People don't give a shit about them or tag team wrestling in general for the most part. It could be a good to great feud, but Hart Foundations/Bulldogs it will never be, which no matter how you look at it, that will be what it's compared to eventhough obviously the Bulldogs weren't really related. But those were some of imo the best straight up tag matches I have ever seen.
 

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I'm sure if they make it personal enough with Afa Sika Snuka or even Kish appears and trash Bret. It would be more easier if all of the damn Hart family/affiates weren't dead. Pillman, Bulldog, Stu, Owen. The have some bad omen going on there
 

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I'm a Hart Dynasty fan and everything, and I would love to see them getting into a long time feud with the Samoans, but realistically it won't draw a fucking thing. People don't give a shit about them or tag team wrestling in general for the most part. It could be a good to great feud, but Hart Foundations/Bulldogs it will never be, which no matter how you look at it, that will be what it's compared to eventhough obviously the Bulldogs weren't really related. But those were some of imo the best straight up tag matches I have ever seen.

Thing to remember is those guys had been wrestling each other in Stampede for years prior to fueding... They knew each other inside out. (Also applies to the epicness of whenever Bret & Davey Boy faced off.)
 

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I really like it when wrestlers debut with a bang, it helps the "anything can happen" feel of the show and it also puts them over right off the bat. This feud should be an interesting one, we'll see where they take it this Monday on RAW
 

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Thing to remember is those guys had been wrestling each other in Stampede for years prior to fueding... They knew each other inside out. (Also applies to the epicness of whenever Bret & Davey Boy faced off.)

Yeah I totally forgot about that lol my age is showing again lol.
 

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^^^LOL... I think it's more me showing MY age, to be fair!


I really like it when wrestlers debut with a bang


Absolutely. It's whether they're prepared to follow it up with the same extent of a push though.

Just posted as much in another thread, but look at the new wave of guys WWE want(ed) us to take seriously.... Swagger, Sheamus, Drew... They're barely fed scraps.

Sheamus was being sold as a dominant force on Raw (when in truth he'd put Jamie Noble out of action and struggled to see off GoldDust over on ECW). Then made to look like a joke when he actually won a world title.

Swagger looks like a joke for best part of a year struggling with jobbers like Bourne and if I recall correctly... Next thing were meant to take him seriously as WHC even though he's gone on to lose every week since winning said title.

Drew... Well he get's the Vince' chosen one gimmick, BUT without any kind of on-screen rub from Vince and merely bullys Matt Hardy about and they expect him to get ME-level heat.

...Or look at the legacy Storyline. Honestly, what was the point of that? ...
The pair of them would arguably have been much off out there orchestrating their own heat given, attacking the Truth's & Kofi's of this world given how they initially launched 'Team Priceless'.



I understand they got burned by Lesnar & Lashley, but there is such a thing as middle ground, FFS.
 

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To be fair Fixx, they really have redeemed Sheamus since he lost the title. He took HHH out completely, he owned Cena after OTL. He destroyed Mark Henry the next night. I take Sheamus very seriously right now and wouldn't bet againgst him getting another title reign by the end of the year.
 

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I thought these guys were quite good. They cut a relevant second gen promo and came across possibly as what Cryme Tyme could have been if they were able to portray decent heels. I'm not really a fan of the Hart Dynasty... at this point they're just feeding off the abysmal lack of charisma put forth by Bret and seem to be nothing more than lackeys with the sole purpose of protecting a cripple. But anyway...

It's nice to see another REAL tag team join the roster and not keep cycling through the possibilities of who to team Jericho or Miz with. Apparently RAW is going to be the home of the tag titles for quite some time now, so why not just move Croft and Baretta, the only other real tag team onto the roster as well.
 

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I thought these guys were quite good. They cut a relevant second gen promo and came across possibly as what Cryme Tyme could have been if they were able to portray decent heels. I'm not really a fan of the Hart Dynasty... at this point they're just feeding off the abysmal lack of charisma put forth by Bret and seem to be nothing more than lackeys with the sole purpose of protecting a cripple. But anyway...

It's nice to see another REAL tag team join the roster and not keep cycling through the possibilities of who to team Jericho or Miz with. Apparently RAW is going to be the home of the tag titles for quite some time now, so why not just move Croft and Baretta, the only other real tag team onto the roster as well.

THIS ^^^.

I like these guys, It's good that the tag division Has been lit up even though it will probably not last. But they are pretty decent in the ring, Not totally shit on the mic. They have some timing issues with the 3 way finisher thing, But yeah i like them so far.

Oh yeah anyone else think that Jay i thnik it is resembles the rock a little bit(looks wise) ?
 

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I think WWE is going too balls out with second generation talent. It almost looks like WWE tries to employ superstars based on their family tree. Are the "other" talent not good enough these days that they would just rather go with the second generation stars rather than "taking a gamble" on non-second generation talent?

Second Generation Superstars in WWE right now...

Randy Orton
Chavo Guerrero (if you want to count him)
Cody Rhodes
DH Smith
Natalya
Ted DiBiase
Goldust (again, same as Chavo)
Primo
Tamino
Jimmy Uso
Jules Uso

Let alone the talent in FCW...
Brett DiBiase
Richie Steamboat
Wes Brisco
Joe Henning
Tito Colon

It is quite a significant number. I look at Orton as the first and the most succesful 2nd Gen star, and I guess WWE is basing their choice of his success hoping everyone else could pan out to be just like him.
 

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I think WWE is going too balls out with second generation talent. It almost looks like WWE tries to employ superstars based on their family tree. Are the "other" talent not good enough these days that they would just rather go with the second generation stars rather than "taking a gamble" on non-second generation talent?

Second Generation Superstars in WWE right now...

Randy Orton
Chavo Guerrero (if you want to count him)
Cody Rhodes
DH Smith
Natalya
Ted DiBiase
Goldust (again, same as Chavo)
Primo
Tamino
Jimmy Uso
Jules Uso

Let alone the talent in FCW...
Brett DiBiase
Richie Steamboat
Wes Brisco
Joe Henning
Tito Colon

It is quite a significant number. I look at Orton as the first and the most succesful 2nd Gen star, and I guess WWE is basing their choice of his success hoping everyone else could pan out to be just like him.
Maybe the WWE feels that because of their family lineage and who their father and grandfather is, maybe they can get over faster than the other wrestlers. It's like oh my father is the Million Dollar Man, I deserve to be treated like royalty. Gets booed.