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Mustafar Reginald said:
Didn't you tell Laura and several others not too long ago that they shouldn't take out their anger out on Rock for WWE's booking decisions? Shouldn't the same logic apply here?


Yeah, I don't think they are considering that, and the report doesn't even say they are. The first half says Lesnar/Punk is a feud WWE is planning, while the second is just them basically stating that since the vast majority of feuds are heel/face, one of them probably will turn face, and Lesnar is one of them thus "which could suggest that Brock is turning babyface eventually." I'm assuming they singled out Lesnar since most people would use logic and assume Punk, so this report sticks out more. Plus, Lesnar's the biggest name so there's that too.

In short, this report is stating at all that WWE is planning to turn Lesnar face and if they were I'd personally write it off as BS as I have trouble believing that WWE is that moronic.

Anyway, I'm a fan of the match. Both of them being involved with Heyman gives it both a good reason to happen kayfabe wise and builds a backstory for the feud. I'm a fan of both men, which is easily a plus for any match. I can imagine it playing out similarly too the Punk/Henry matches, or the Brock/Cena match (minus the terrible finish), both of which I really enjoyed. I definitely don't think Punk should win, and when it happens I really hope he doesn't, but I'm just glad to hear a match being thrown out that I actually have slight interest in unlike the vast majority of the ones WWE are heading to for Mania & Elimination Chamber.

I'm personally a fan of the match however someone will have to turn a face or a heel. Alliteratively, CM Punk can play as a tweener as the older audience will always be a fan of him. Furthermore, I'm seeing that people aren't a fan of Brock Lesnar turning face as I am, myself. I can't see Brock Lesnar and Paul Haymen becoming famous and taking on superstars such as Mark Henry, a heel Randy Orton, etc, it's just not them. They're natural heels and can work wonders as their natural role, heels.

The match itself will be great and an awesome build up. I'm a fan of Brock Lesnar and CM Punk to an extent. CM Punk will probably go over but that's an understandable future business decision. I, myself, will be angry at the fact that CM Punk would go over someone like a dominant machine, Brock Lesnar, however if it's a route they wish to take, it's understandable.
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Hi I'm D'Z, nice to meet you. The joke was that I am already a huge CM Punk hater. I can see how without that information the joke would be lost on you.

Wow, pretty sure I already knew this, how the fuck did it slip my mind? Well, can't say I'm too pleased with myself right now, but I was bound to mess up on here eventually.

Saylor said:
I'm personally a fan of the match however someone will have to turn a face or a heel. Alliteratively, CM Punk can play as a tweener as the older audience will always be a fan of him. Furthermore, I'm seeing that people aren't a fan of Brock Lesnar turning face as I am, myself. I can't see Brock Lesnar and Paul Haymen becoming famous and taking on superstars such as Mark Henry, a heel Randy Orton, etc, it's just not them. They're natural heels and can work wonders as their natural role, heels.

I can't imagine anyone who's actually a fan of the idea of Lesnar turning face. Luckily, Lesnar isn't turning face in the foreseeable future and as I previously stated the report isn't even saying he will or that WWE is thinking about it. So there's no need to worry about it.

As for Punk, he should always be playing a tweener in my opinion. His heel stuff tends to rely on delivering the same exact promo week in and week out, and for an understandable reason I guess, and his face work, while I tend to enjoy it, a lot of people seem to find bland.


The match itself will be great and an awesome build up. I'm a fan of Brock Lesnar and CM Punk to an extent. CM Punk will probably go over but that's an understandable future business decision. I, myself, will be angry at the fact that CM Punk would go over someone like a dominant machine, Brock Lesnar, however if it's a route they wish to take, it's understandable.

Yeah, I agree Punk shouldn't go over Brock and if I cared about the going-on's of WWE any more I'd probably be angry over that result too.

I don't necessarily think it's a better business decision either. I've read, in this thread, that Lesnar's around for another two years and CM Punk has constantly said that he's retiring sooner than we think. With that in mind, I honestly don't see him still being around in three years.
 

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Mustafar Reginald said:
Wow, pretty sure I already knew this, how the f*ck did it slip my mind? Well, can't say I'm too pleased with myself right now, but I was bound to mess up on here eventually.

It's all good man. I sometimes like to post as a condescending asshole.

You get this one pass. Next time we will all point and laugh.
 

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Wasn't Lesnar face before, and didn't it turn out relatively well? Seem to remember Heyman betraying him to join Big Show around the relaunch of WWECW, and it worked really well. Obviously, CM Punk was the most over face in years in 2011, so either one turning face could work and has worked.

But the obvious problem happens: Creative. Lesnar was a fan favorite back in a time when creative could actually book a babyface character. A smiley babyface Lesnar can kiss the fattest part of my ass. We've seen what it did to Punk, it was a disaster.
 

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Rain said:
Wasn't Lesnar face before, and didn't it turn out relatively well? Seem to remember Heyman betraying him to join Big Show around the relaunch of WWECW, and it worked really well. Obviously, CM Punk was the most over face in years in 2011, so either one turning face could work and has worked.

But the obvious problem happens: Creative. Lesnar was a fan favorite back in a time when creative could actually book a babyface character. A smiley babyface Lesnar can kiss the fattest part of my ass. We've seen what it did to Punk, it was a disaster.

That was in late 2002 at Survivor Series. He did have a good feud with Big Show (pretty good stretcher match at Judgment Day 2003) but that was it. His feud with Angle definitely worked out better with Angle as the face, as was the case later on. I think people reacted to him a lot better as a heel which is why he went back to one not even a year after going face. With the way they can sell him as a monster because of his UFC background, he is much better suited as a heel nowadays, too.

I guess being a face would open up the creative envelope a little more, because one could say you can only have him disappear and then come back to fight a daring baby face so many times, whereas it's possible for Lesnar to step into the role of someone who actually comes back to give an equally dominant heel monster (Henry, Show, Reigns, etc.) his greatest challenge. That sounds somewhat interesting but there are still baby face challengers for him to take on. I have a feeling Rock might come back to wrestle Lesnar at WM30. It seems like too huge match to pass up (all the mainstream publicity of a wrestler-turned-Hollywood star versus wrestler-turned-UFC's biggest draw) and there's no way they are turning Rock heel for a situation like that. An underdog match with Bryan is a possibility, though I don't see them ever going in that direction. Him putting over Ryback in a Goldberg-like situation would be nice. I certainly don't see how they can possibly sell Punk as a heel against a face Lesnar.
 

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Rain said:
Wasn't Lesnar face before, and didn't it turn out relatively well? Seem to remember Heyman betraying him to join Big Show around the relaunch of WWECW, and it worked really well. Obviously, CM Punk was the most over face in years in 2011, so either one turning face could work and has worked.

But the obvious problem happens: Creative. Lesnar was a fan favorite back in a time when creative could actually book a babyface character. A smiley babyface Lesnar can kiss the fattest part of my ass. We've seen what it did to Punk, it was a disaster.

Do you really think Brock Lesnar would even play a smiley face character? Brock. Lesnar? I don't. no matter what they said or how they wanted to book that, Brock wouldn't go for it.
 

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I think that if they going for this feud, it will obviously be Punk that will turn face and not Lesnar.
 

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Respect Vegeta6425 said:
I think that if they going for this feud, it will obviously be Punk that will turn face and not Lesnar.

CM Punk is changing from heel to face every two months it seems. Brock should stay heel.
 

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Punk will be betraded by heyman and then turn face . Then , heyman will want to "destroy "punk and will set up a feud. Only way I can see this happening
 

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WHY WWE!? :why:
I mean come on! Brock face? Fighting.... P-P-Punk! What the hell are they smoking!? They may as well have Cena vs Rock AGAIN... OH WAIT! THAT'S RIGHT!
:facepalm:

Recycling is a good thing done anywhere else but the wwe. :pity:
 

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Punk as face? = :eww: :no: NOOOOOOOOO! :angry:
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Do you really think Brock Lesnar would even play a smiley face character? Brock. Lesnar? I don't. no matter what they said or how they wanted to book that, Brock wouldn't go for it.

He's a guy motivated by a lot of money; why wouldn't he do it?
 

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If Punk vs. Brock it would have to Brock being the HEEL! And Punk the face and Punk would have to be the WWE Champion to take Punk seruisly! IT THE ONLY WAY THIS MATCH WOULD WORK! B/c Punk does look strong looking up to Brock but if Punk was WWE Champion he would look string going into the match!