Stone Cold Randy Orton

[OrtonMark54]

Well the transformation is nearly complete. All he needs is the gay biker vest and a few beers.

He actually showed emotion after the RKOing the top two heels on the roster at nearly the same time, not just the blank stare he has been doing. He also mouthed mutha fucka. Then he stood on the top rope mouthing off to the crowd.

 

[...god...]

He's been 'showing emotion' for like the past 4-5 months, where have you been? Orton will never be Austin, as interesting as Austin, as viable as Austin, as over as Austin, as good as Austin, etc. Refreshing and nice to have him face, though.

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

It's like saying Kobe is the next Jordan, except far more laughable. Kobe has won two rings on his own, Orton still hasn't had a great match on his own.

 

[OrtonMark54]

Nah..he hasn't shown this much emotion in quite some time. It's usually just a blank stare or the head rubbing thing he does. He has been booked as the ice cold snake in the grass, the silent assassin. It was almost as if he was excited to be in the position he is in. Which I don't blame him, because over the years, he has received some of the worst booking imaginable. It was rather refreshing if you ask me.

And I wasn't saying Orton is Austin. Or he will even come close to accomplishing what Austin accomplished. Just making a commentary on the type of character the WWE is creating. A tweener in the image of Stone Cold. The spot where he went up on the turnbuckle was very much Austinesque as he was talking to the crowd.

Also, it is very difficult to have a great match "on your own". Only the best of the best are able to do that. It usually takes two great wrestlers who mesh well together to put on a truly great match. You can't condemn him for not being able to carry dead weight to a great match. Orton is never going to be a great ring general or put on a technically perfect match, but he makes up for those limitations with his ring presence and excellent selling abilities.

Also, your basketball analogy is completely offbase Enzo. There is no way of telling if Jordan would have won all those championships without Pippen by his side, or if Kobe would have won his last two without Gasol. You can say, however, that the torch has been passed from Jordan to Kobe, even if Jordan is equivocally better than Kobe. The same can be said for Austin and Orton. The austinesque tweener character has been passed to Orton.

 

[Pat Patterson]

It's like saying Kobe is the next Jordan, except far more laughable. Kobe has won two rings on his own, Orton still hasn't had a great match on his own.

Enzo Enzo Enzo.... I know you live on this forum and want to silence the Patster... but it won't happen. I'm beginning to think you're the smurf, not me.

It's like saying you're a man. How can you be a man when you are an unshaven goofball who quotes Leviticus and lives in his mother's basement?

And then there is the ever present issue of your unnaturally large nipples. I have it on good word that they are as large as saucer plates.

 

[He who knows more than Nation]

I can't lie. You finally made me laugh Patty. Let's fuck. In my mom's basement, as long as you wash the sheets.

 

[Pat Patterson]

I don't wash SHIT! Your mom can wash 'em with her hairy axewound for all I care. But sure, I am a horny old man who loves dick. Let's do this thing.

 

[OrtonMark54]

It may also be offbase to write off Orton so quickly. No one thought Austin would amount to jackshit when he was stunning steve or the ring master. All the Orton naysayers need to recognize that most pro wrestlers do not reach their prime until their early to mid 30's. The exceptions being The Rock and Cena. Its not out of the realm of possibility that Orton has not yet reached his peak.

It's very well possible that Orton's popularity could force the WWE's hand and make them turn Cena sooner than we all expected. Tweener Orton vs Heel Cena may be the feud that brings on the next great era or pro wrestling. Cena has proven that he can work great as a heel and Orton is proving this time that he can get the crowd on his side.

 

[OrtonMark54]

I don't wash SHIT! Your mom can wash 'em with her hairy axewound for all I care. But sure, I am a horny old man who loves dick. Let's do this thing.

Fuck it...I'm going back to the prowrestling.com forums where I don't have to listen to shit like this in a wrestling forum.

 

[gatesoftanhauser]

I would disagree with another Orton vs Cena feud. They beat that dead horse too much last year, and there wasn't one memorable match out of their program.

 

[Pat Patterson]

Fuck it...I'm going back to the prowrestling.com forums where I don't have to listen to shit like this in a wrestling forum.

Is that a threat or a promise, sweetums? Let's hug it out you big burly bear.

 

[MizMasta3000]

Nah..he hasn't shown this much emotion in quite some time. It's usually just a blank stare or the head rubbing thing he does. He has been booked as the ice cold snake in the grass, the silent assassin. It was almost as if he was excited to be in the position he is in. Which I don't blame him, because over the years, he has received some of the worst booking imaginable. It was rather refreshing if you ask me.

And I wasn't saying Orton is Austin. Or he will even come close to accomplishing what Austin accomplished. Just making a commentary on the type of character the WWE is creating. A tweener in the image of Stone Cold. The spot where he went up on the turnbuckle was very much Austinesque as he was talking to the crowd.

Also, it is very difficult to have a great match "on your own". Only the best of the best are able to do that. It usually takes two great wrestlers who mesh well together to put on a truly great match. You can't condemn him for not being able to carry dead weight to a great match. Orton is never going to be a great ring general or put on a technically perfect match, but he makes up for those limitations with his ring presence and excellent selling abilities.

Also, your basketball analogy is completely offbase Enzo. There is no way of telling if Jordan would have won all those championships without Pippen by his side, or if Kobe would have won his last two without Gasol. You can say, however, that the torch has been passed from Jordan to Kobe, even if Jordan is equivocally better than Kobe. The same can be said for Austin and Orton. The austinesque tweener character has been passed to Orton.

I don't remember Orton not being in championship or high profile feud since 2007

 

[straight_edge76]

Honestly these Orton/Austin comparisons just need to stop. I am a huge Orton fan, but he will NEVER in any way be to the WWE what Austin was to the WWF in the late 90s. Orton is a great mic worker as well as in ring performer, I wouldn't go as far as to put him in that "best in the world" category, but he can work a good match and some of his psychology is great imo. But Austin had an intangiable that nobody in the WWE, except maybe Cena has. You could say that there are a few similarities between Orton and Austin, but other than the "badass anti-hero" tweener role and the similarities between the Stunner and the RKO what is there?

I am not saying that Orton couldn't be a #1 face on RAW or in the WWE for that matter, because imo he could if given the right chance and with the eventual Cena turn coming at the right time. I feel that Orton is hitting his prime currently and imo he could still get better both as a character as well as in the ring.

 

[...god...]

I get the tweener thing, but the same may happen soon to Miz and Jerhicho. Guess the Miz would be like The Rock then.

 

[noumenon]

Comparisons will always arise...
Sheamus to HHH...
Miz to Rock/Jericho..
Orton to Austin...
Of course you're going to want to follow in the already successful footsteps of one of the most over (if not the most) gimmicks in the history of the business. Sure there are the parallels and the similarities between the two, but I really don't think there are enough to really get carried away with it. Of course a bad ass anti-hero is going to have some of the same qualities as another bad ass anti-hero, it goes without saying. I don't think Orton has done anything yet to warrant outrage and blatant Stone Cold references. Why? Because he hits consecutive finishers on people? He's got a quick striking move, and he's a face... plenty of people do it. Because he gets hyped after taking out a few heels? Plenty of faces do it.
Hopefully Orton continues on this path because he is definitely a fresh alternative to Cena's bubble gum face antics. Orton just needs a feud with a truly cemented veteran heel, of which WWE is sorely lacking right now. Perhaps one final HHH heel feud would be the best option to truly get him over as a mega face. Even though we'd have to suffer through some lack-luster matches we know WWE's recent pattern of covering up with gimmick matches may just save it.