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Crayo said:Mae Young's hand-son
KevinLockard23 said:-Putting Kane in so many stupid storylines over the years. He's become a joke. Just look at the current angle he is in with Daniel Bryan. You'd never see Undertaker involved in comedic angles like this. Kane was originally supposed to be Undertaker's equal in terms of having a dark or serious 'monster' (Taker is an undead phenom, not a monster, but whatever) on the roster.
-The newly re-branded ECW concept from 2006-2010.
-A lot of stupid shit from the Attitude Era.
-Replacing bookers (actual wrestling minds) with Hollywood writers, and making the promos so scripted. Even wrestlers like Austin have complained about this, stating that people used to be able to more freely come up with their own promos and gimmicks but they want to script almost everything so tightly now.
-Bringing back the women's division in the late 90's.
There's more, but these immediately come to mind.
Leo C said:There's a good side about what happened to Kane's character though. It kept the character fresh. OK, he's not that useful for a supernatural character atm or anything, but the "monster who destroys everyone", which was basically his gimmick, can only work for so long.
KevinLockard23 said:You could make a similar argument about Undertaker, and yet he's remained in that gimmick for pretty much 20 years. Even keeping Kane as a monster, there is still a way of freshening him up, like when he became more 'human' with his friendship with X-Pac and supposed relationship with Tori or when Snitsky caused Lita to have a miscarriage (although I hated the latter angle) or the way he unmasked and became a full blown monster again, etc. Him slapping Daniel Bryan on the ass? Urgh.
CM Punk said:Bullying
Britanica said::dafuq: you mean?
The be a star thing? Cause to me, that's making bullying worse. lol
CM Punk said:General Bullying. Like the time's JR got made fun of.
Britanica said:Ohhhhh
So what about Punk and Heyman teasing King about his heart attack?