Something I want to see someday

[The GOAT]

Look, people already said what is wrong with your thread(wwe would never do it, paige is a poor choice, etc. etc.)

Now with that out of the way, I will say what is right in your thread: Women should be able to wrestle with men. Not on the time or way you mentioned, but the transition happening would be best.

People talking about suspension of disbelief should really reavaluate what they are watching. It's a contact sport with no weight categories, that in itself is way more ludicrous than a man vs a woman of similar weight. The fact that the same people that are actually totes okay with daniel bryan beating brock lesnar clean are saying men and women should never ever be in the same ring together blows my mind. It's backwards and hypocritical.

The "I can't see women getting hurt" bit is also condescending and outright insulting for obvious reasons.

All in all, your thread is bad, but the sentiment behind it is nice, which is more than I can say for some of the other comments.

Men fighting men from different weight classes and women fighting (and beating) men on a regular basis are two entirely different things. Size isn't everything in a fight, small(er) men have taken bigger men in a real fight before. Easier to suspend disbelief on that than it is believing women could take a man, which has rarely ever happened. It's all relative; Just because something has elements of fantasy that forces you to suspend disbelief on certain things doesn't automatically mean people want to see all logic and reason thrown out the window. When you watch The Walking Dead, you have to believe that there's something that can cause zombies to actually exist, but if the human characters suddenly started growing wings and flying or displaying super powers by shooting lasers at zombies or something, that would change the entire complexion of the show,

I believe they could get away with it on a very selective basis - if a talent like Chyna or Kharma were fighting men (at least certain men... Even back in the day people were laughing when Chyna vs Steve Austin was announced as the main event of the '99 Summerslam for a couple of weeks) or if they performed a few good moves during a mixed tag team match, that would be fine (El Tortito himself has performed a Hurricanrana on the likes of Rollins and Cesaro before), but being able to go toe to toe with them in a competitive match for ten or fifteen minutes is a bit much.

 

[Green Jesus]

Men fighting men from different weight classes and women fighting (and beating) men on a regular basis are two entirely different things. Size isn't everything in a fight, small(er) men have taken bigger men in a real fight before. Easier to suspend disbelief on that than it is believing women could take a man, which has rarely ever happened. It's all relative; Just because something has elements of fantasy that forces you to suspend disbelief on certain things doesn't automatically mean people want to see all logic and reason thrown out the window. When you watch The Walking Dead, you have to believe that there's something that can cause zombies to actually exist, but if the human characters suddenly started growing wings and flying or displaying super powers by shooting lasers at zombies or something, that would change the entire complexion of the show,

I believe they could get away with it on a very selective basis - if a talent like Chyna or Kharma were fighting men (at least certain men... Even back in the day people were laughing when Chyna vs Steve Austin was announced as the main event of the '99 Summerslam for a couple of weeks) or if they performed a few good moves during a mixed tag team match, that would be fine (El Tortito himself has performed a Hurricanrana on the likes of Rollins and Cesaro before), but being able to go toe to toe with them in a competitive match for ten or fifteen minutes is a bit much.

What. Just because you're not used to women on men fights doesn't mean women on men competition is less viable than no weight classes. I'd certainly have my disbelief less damaged with ronda rousey beating daniel bryan than daniel bryan beating brock lesnar. And really, your walking dead example is extremely flawed, specially since wrestling has always been "anything goes" and constantly changing in internal logic. Zombies? Check. Fire powers? Check. Beating up over 20 security guards? Check. 175lb man as world champion? Check.

WWE has absolutely no world consistency like the walking dead. We are never under the premise that even laws of physics apply, but the one thing you want to keep consistent is men being better at fighting than women on every situations that don't involve a woman being "manly"? Like, really. The "David" was always abused to suspend disbelief of someone actually being capable in a fight. It could very well be used by a woman. Just trade "size" for "muscle mass" and it ends up being the same fucking story.

I am not saying you should absolutely pretend there's not a physical superiority men in general have, I'm saying that's the exact same suspension of disbelief you put when a smaller man is fighting a bigger man. It's just a underdog tale with a vagina involved. To keep true to your analogy, its more like walking dead introducing...dog zombies to a show that has regular zombies, getting backlash for the lack of realism.

 

[The GOAT]

What. Just because you're not used to women on men fights doesn't mean women on men competition is less viable than no weight classes. I'd certainly have my disbelief less damaged with ronda rousey beating daniel bryan than daniel bryan beating brock lesnar. And really, your walking dead example is extremely flawed, specially since wrestling has always been "anything goes" and constantly changing in internal logic. Zombies? Check. Fire powers? Check. Beating up over 20 security guards? Check. 175lb man as world champion? Check.

WWE has absolutely no world consistency like the walking dead. We are never under the premise that even laws of physics apply, but the one thing you want to keep consistent is men being better at fighting than women on every situations that don't involve a woman being "manly"? Like, really. The "David" was always abused to suspend disbelief of someone actually being capable in a fight. It could very well be used by a woman. Just trade "size" for "muscle mass" and it ends up being the same fucking story.

I am not saying you should absolutely pretend there's not a physical superiority men in general have, I'm saying that's the exact same suspension of disbelief you put when a smaller man is fighting a bigger man. It's just a underdog tale with a vagina involved. To keep true to your analogy, its more like walking dead introducing...dog zombies to a show that has regular zombies, getting backlash for the lack of realism.

Like I said, it's all relative and despite the already large number of fantastical things that happen in wrestling, there will always still be certain things that fans won't come to accept and will dismiss as being "too unbelievable", no matter how contradicting it may seem. People cited in a survey conducted back in 2001 as to why people were tuning out of wrestling that characters on the show acting too out of character (i.e. not performing believable actions that one would think was consistent to their character), specifically in regards to Stone Cold aligning himself with his biggest nemesis Mr. McMahon, was one of the reasons some folks were tuning out. Hogan said in his book that when he was asked to job to Billy Kidman in 2000, the win didn't really do anything for Kidman because even with help from others, people simply didn't buy that Kidman was on that level with a legend the caliber of Hulk Hogan (there are numerous examples of this type of thing, where someone doesn't get as over as the company intends because people simply don't buy them past a certain level.) If Spike Dudley came in and defeated Brock Lesnar in sixty seconds after hitting him with only one offensive move, people would groan and refuse to buy it given how much of an machine Lesnar has been built up as and how much he dwarfs a guy like Spike in terms of size and overall credibility. Etc., etc.

Also, for the record, zombified dogs absolutely would not be shunned if they appeared on The Walking Dead, since it's never been stated that only humans suffer the effects of mutating into a zombie. Now if flying monkeys suddenly appeared, I'd agree.

 

[Stopspot]

Paige is way too small to wrestle men. The reason it worked with Chyna ad Kharma/Kong is because they were very big/very strong women. Paige is a small lass with a bad back due to untreated scoliosis. She probably shouldn't be taking bumps from men.

 

[Green Jesus]

Like I said, it's all relative and despite the already large number of fantastical things that happen in wrestling, there will always still be certain things that fans won't come to accept and will dismiss as being "too unbelievable", no matter how contradicting it may seem. People cited in a survey conducted back in 2001 as to why people were tuning out of wrestling that characters on the show acting too out of character (i.e. not performing believable actions that one would think was consistent to their character), specifically in regards to Stone Cold aligning himself with his biggest nemesis Mr. McMahon, was one of the reasons some folks were tuning out. Hogan said in his book that when he was asked to job to Billy Kidman in 2000, the win didn't really do anything for Kidman because even with help from others, people simply didn't buy that Kidman was on that level with a legend the caliber of Hulk Hogan (there are numerous examples of this type of thing, where someone doesn't get as over as the company intends because people simply don't buy them past a certain level.) If Spike Dudley came in and defeated Brock Lesnar in sixty seconds after hitting him with only one offensive move, people would groan and refuse to buy it given how much of an machine Lesnar has been built up as and how much he dwarfs a guy like Spike in terms of size and overall credibility. Etc., etc.

Also, for the record, zombified dogs absolutely would not be shunned if they appeared on The Walking Dead, since it's never been stated that only humans suffer the effects of mutating into a zombie. Now if flying monkeys suddenly appeared, I'd agree.

Erm, you talk as if I'm suggesting wwe kick the gates open or something. Your reductio ad absurdum is also not very coherent as you have yet to give me a reason to believe equally unimposing(by comparison) human beings have a hardcapped credibility depending on their sex.