So... Daniel Bryan is...

[Crayo]

Would have been a great story later in the year or something, where someone as over as Bryan is forced to team with a talented heel like Bray and his guys. It really helps the heel - as we saw with Barrett - but it's just pointless now and creates unnecessary road blocks for Bryan.

Interested to know what @Snowman thinks of it.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

To bring this back on-topic though, does anyone else think the inevitable double turn kinda... sucks? I mean, unless they've gone COMPLETELY Blue, Daniel Bryan is not going to be a heel. He is the most over guy in the company and it genuinely isn't even close. Stars like Cena are piggy-backing Bryan to even get any pops at this point, so we can pretty much assume he's not going to be a heel. That means he screws over the Wyatt's and wins the Rumble, but... why? Why do they have to do that? We're going to get what, like, 3 weeks or however many RAW's are left of him "being in the Wyatt's" and possibly losing some momentum that he has worked so hard to build, for some double turn that won't shock anyone with a brain?

IMO: this could have waited. I personally just want to see the guy win the rumble and win at Wrestlemania to complete the "overcoming of the odds" story he has going. That's my opinion of it all, and it's why I didn't mark as much as many on here.

I don't think DB will lose any momentum from this at all. If anything he will gain momentum as the fans clamor for him to come back to the good side and break away from the wyatts. I picture him reluctantly ignoring 'yes' chants during a match or 'Daniel Bryan' chants during a Wyatt promo. we saw it last night when he was on the stage facing the crowd he started doing his queer little growl/quiver and the crowd popped, but he didn't attack them. Once he finally snaps and clears all three of them the pop will be immense. Its a good feud to keep him away from the title for the time being and give Bray a helluva rub with a match at probably the EC, or they both participate in the EC match and have a once off in the ME on Raw where Bryan goes over before moving on to say his feud with HBK leading to Mania.

 

[Crayo]

I don't think DB will lose any momentum from this at all. If anything he will gain momentum as the fans clamor for him to come back to the good side and break away from the wyatts. I picture him reluctantly ignoring 'yes' chants during a match or 'Daniel Bryan' chants during a Wyatt promo. we saw it last night when he was on the stage facing the crowd he started doing his queer little growl/quiver and the crowd popped, but he didn't attack them. Once he finally snaps and clears all three of them the pop will be immense. Its a good feud to keep him away from the title for the time being and give Bray a helluva rub with a match at probably the EC, or they both participate in the EC match and have a once off in the ME on Raw where Bryan goes over before moving on to say his feud with HBK leading to Mania.

This is how the #TeamOptimism would have viewed this at first, but I think they're just overcomplicating something that is so simple. The fans just want to see Bryan finally overcome the odds, win the rumble, and have him finally get his championship reign at Wrestlemania. I understand they want to bring Bray into this, but there's no reason to tease Bryan turning so close to what's going to be the biggest months in his career. I understand the fans aren't suddenly going to boo him or think less, but the kids might... Even if they don't, it still paints a pretty bleak kayfabe character for Bryan. His gimmick is pretty much ultra-babyface where he's getting put down by the machine but continuously fights back and works hard - mentioned in like every promo - only to suddenly join the Wyatt's? It's just unnecessary Russo booking in my opinion. It CAN be epic if WWE do it right, but I just don't have faith in them, and I'm starting to think negatively about the whole ordeal.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

This is how the #TeamOptimism would have viewed this at first, but I think they're just overcomplicating something that is so simple. The fans just want to see Bryan finally overcome the odds, win the rumble, and have him finally get his championship reign at Wrestlemania. I understand they want to bring Bray into this, but there's no reason to tease Bryan turning so close to what's going to be the biggest months in his career. I understand the fans aren't suddenly going to boo him or think less, but the kids might... Even if they don't, it still paints a pretty bleak kayfabe character for Bryan. His gimmick is pretty much ultra-babyface where he's getting put down by the machine but continuously fights back and works hard - mentioned in like every promo - only to suddenly join the Wyatt's? It's just unnecessary Russo booking in my opinion. It CAN be epic if WWE do it right, but I just don't have faith in them, and I'm starting to think negatively about the whole ordeal.

I don't think its Russo booking at all. It makes perfect sense. This has been built towards for months if you listen to Dick Butt's promo last night. He was at his wit's end because no matter how over he was he can't overcome the authority. The fans aren't getting him to the top, the Wyatt's seem pretty badass, have whooped his ass and want to bring him into their group, so a desperate man is attempting to get to the top by any mean's necessary, even joining the wyatts.

the interesting plot point to me is finding his eventual motives if he joins the Wyatts legitimately or if he is just angling to better himself in the chess match with Wyatt, trying to have them lower their guard. If nothing else it makes me more eager to watch next week than say DB just whooping Bray's ass last night and ending on a yes chant with Cole going 'DANIEL BRYAN'S ON A ROLL HEADING TOWARDS THE RUMBLE!!!'

 

[Crayo]

I don't think its Russo booking at all. It makes perfect sense. This has been built towards for months if you listen to Dick Butt's promo last night. He was at his wit's end because no matter how over he was he can't overcome the authority. The fans aren't getting him to the top, the Wyatt's seem pretty badass, have whooped his ass and want to bring him into their group, so a desperate man is attempting to get to the top by any mean's necessary, even joining the wyatts.

the interesting plot point to me is finding his eventual motives if he joins the Wyatts legitimately or if he is just angling to better himself in the chess match with Wyatt, trying to have them lower their guard.

It makes good sense yes, but so close to his inevitable success? I'm not sure how far away the Rumble is, but why do this now? Why not do this in the weeks where Bryan was out of the title scene and had nothing to do except take beat downs from heels? They could have used that story to then sell how amazing it was that he wins at the Rumble - by himself - and sell how desperate he was and how far he was willing to go. It's just a bit too complicated booking for my liking. The fans just want to see him win the rumble and then Wrestlemania to FINALLY get the pay off from two terribly short title reigns and being put down from "the machine". That's it. I love the Wyatt's so much - possibly Bray's biggest fan - but I am just not optimistic about this sudden movement. However, I'll wait and see how it turns out, because it could work out epic. Everyone involved is very talented and if WWE's booking isn't Blue, it could be a blessing in disguise.

 

[Crayo]

Also, I've seen many people suggest that he'll use The Wyatt's to win the Rumble... why? That goes against his whole "rise against all odds" gimmick. That's a heel thing to do. I want to see him battered and bruised but OVERCOME and win the Rumble. Using The Wyatt's is pointless. The Wyatt's elimination should spark a new feud between them and someone else - so they can end the feud with Bryan - and let Bryan move on to bigger things (the title picture).

 

[F.R.I.E]

To bring this back on-topic though, does anyone else think the inevitable double turn kinda... sucks? I mean, unless they've gone COMPLETELY Blue, Daniel Bryan is not going to be a heel. He is the most over guy in the company and it genuinely isn't even close. Stars like Cena are piggy-backing Bryan to even get any pops at this point, so we can pretty much assume he's not going to be a heel. That means he screws over the Wyatt's and wins the Rumble, but... why? Why do they have to do that? We're going to get what, like, 3 weeks or however many RAW's are left of him "being in the Wyatt's" and possibly losing some momentum that he has worked so hard to build, for some double turn that won't shock anyone with a brain?

IMO: this could have waited. I personally just want to see the guy win the rumble and win at Wrestlemania to complete the "overcoming of the odds" story he has going. That's my opinion of it all, and it's why I didn't mark as much as many on here.

Actually, it was the perfect time for Daniel to join The Wyatt Family. It's the beginning of a new year and Daniel wants to change his fortune in the WWE. The storyline is him overcoming the odds of the Authority and other rivals in the WWE. So far, he has been unsuccessful when using force/courage against The Authority, Now, he is going to use the Wyatts to win the biggest match of the year- the Royal Rumble. It's a genius way of showing how Daniel knows how to overcome the obstacles. Then, he'll somehow overcome the odds at Wrestlemania and become the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. It's perfect.

 

[Crayo]

Actually, it was the perfect time for Daniel to join The Wyatt Family. It's the beginning of a new year and Daniel wants to change his fortune in the WWE. The storyline is him overcoming the odds of the Authority and other rivals in the WWE. So far, he has been unsuccessful when using force/courage against The Authority, Now, he is going to use the Wyatts to win the biggest match of the year- the Royal Rumble. It's a genius way of showing how Daniel knows how to overcome the obstacles. Then, he'll somehow overcome the odds at Wrestlemania and become the WWE World Heavyweight Champion. It's perfect.

Honestly, I know why they did it and the reasoning behind it. It makes sense and can work very well. The point I am making is that it's so close to the pay off we've been patiently waiting for for many months... why do it now? They could have done this months ago or even do it when he's champion. I just dislike how complicated they're making his final pay off when there's genuinely a lot at risk.

 

[Farooq]

Well he could eliminate Harper and Rowan when Bray comes out, they go back in and attack him and he gets beaten badly but still overcomes the pain and takes out Bray so he's still the underdog. They could end this feud at EC. It gives space between Bryan and the world championship scene with Lesnar in it for the moment until after the Chamber PPV, then Bryan could be full focused on the champion afterwards.

 

[F.R.I.E]

Honestly, I know why they did it and the reasoning behind it. It makes sense and can work very well. The point I am making is that it's so close to the pay off we've been patiently waiting for for many months... why do it now? They could have done this months ago or even do it when he's champion. I just dislike how complicated they're making his final pay off when there's genuinely a lot at risk.

It's the end of the year. They wanted to make Daniel realize that not joining the Wyatts earlier was a mistake. Now, he's going to show that he has not given up, yet, he has manipulated and used the Wyatts just like the Authority has manipulated others. (i.e Cody Rhodes, Goldust, Big Show, etc.)

 

[Crayo]

Well he could eliminate Harper and Rowan when Bray comes out, they go back in and attack him and he gets beaten badly but still overcomes the pain and takes out Bray so he's still the underdog. They could end this feud at EC. It gives space between Bryan and the world championship scene with Lesnar in it for the moment until after the Chamber PPV, then Bryan could be full focused on the champion afterwards.

Most solid explanation thus far. I wouldn't really mind this, but it still takes focus away from him and his goal. I love Wyatt's, but I really want to see a headstrong Bryan go after the authority and use these months to build his Rocky montage if that makes sense.

 

[Farooq]

I didn't want him to join at all lol. Really, I just want to see him become WWE Champion, I wish they did this different or not had Bryan feud with the Wyatts at all.

 

[F.R.I.E]

It's the end of the year. They wanted to make Daniel realize that not joining the Wyatts earlier was a mistake. Now, he's going to show that he has not given up, yet, he has manipulated and used the Wyatts just like the Authority has manipulated others. (i.e Cody Rhodes, Goldust, Big Show, etc.)

 

[Crayo]

It's the end of the year. They wanted to make Daniel realize that not joining the Wyatts earlier was a mistake. Now, he's going to show that he has not given up, yet, he has manipulated and used the Wyatts just like the Authority has manipulated others. (i.e Cody Rhodes, Goldust, Big Show, etc.)

Yeah, overcomplicating things lol. They didn't explain this - like they need to for marks - with him simply joining them. It's unnecessary.

I didn't want him to join at all lol. Really, I just want to see him become WWE Champion, I wish they did this different or not had Bryan feud with the Wyatts at all.

THIS. Bryan/Wyatt's is/was fine, but I'm just not a fan of this. This could have been done later on in the year or even when Bryan was champion, it'd mean a lot more to both parties.

 

[F.R.I.E]

Yeah, overcomplicating things lol. They didn't explain this - like they need to for marks - with him simply joining them. It's unnecessary.

I thought it was pretty straight-forward. I mean, did you really think he wouldn't wind up joining them?