Sin Cara - A waste of money -

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Irish Mark

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How do you know he can't wrestle guys bigger than him?

My thoughts exactly. Sin Cara is still fresh and new really, he has only had one short feud, the guy could be a big star, not as a main eventer but there are endless possibilities of mid card feuds involving him. There are so many ways to deal wth the fact he cant speak English; have him feud with Sandow - he talk's well enough for 2 guys; Put him in my programme with Rey; Have him speak Spannish, no translator and as a natural face the crowd mite just pop for it anyway. If it f;ops it flops, fuck it. Give the guy a manager! AW, Matt Striker would be an awesome manager, Teddy Long, great way to keep him from returning as GM.
 

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I'm not entirely sure whether or not we are watching the same Sin Cara, because he seems fairly over with the crowd. I'll admit when he first arrived in WWE he was basically a whole episode of Botchamania. I think the problem was that WWE wasn't trying to accommodate with Sin Cara Lucha Libre style, which makes it hard to have a match with somebody, without it being a complete disaster. Personally I think he has slowed down a lot since returning and I haven't really seen as many botches as I did before, so it seems like Sin Cara has adjusted to WWE's style of wrestling. Sure he can't speak English, but does somebody like Sin Cara really need to say anything? I don't think so.

Rey Mysterio has been wrestling in the states for over 15 years, I believe? I'd sure hope he has adapted to the American style of wrestling.

As for the indy wrestler doing a better job? I doubt that, because WWE would have to invest money into that superstar and make people care about him, where Sin Cara is being build as a Lucha Libre superstar and is a huge box office draw in Mexico. That sounds impressive and doesn't take very much time to have people interested in Sin Cara.
 

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How do you know he can't wrestle guys bigger than him?

Have you seen him wrestle big guys ???
I guess he had matches last year on smack down with Sheamus or kane , I dont remeber exactly but they were full of botches . Forget about big guys , even when he wrestles kidd or hunico ,the opponent have to sell the move himself , he doesnt even connect properly . Now i am not ranting or bitching , who know he may improve but currently he looks like a waste of bucks for me but if he is in midcard , its fine . I got no problem .
 

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So you say he can't wrestle big guys because he had matches with Kane (I don't think he ever did) and Sheamus (only interaction I remember was at MITB) that were full of botches, but then you say you don't remember? Yeah i'm not going to take your opinion seriously when you don't even remember what you're arguing about.
 

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What the hell are you on about? Do you remember him wrestling Kane or Sheamus in botched filled matches or not, otherwise your classing him as a failure without no real basis.
 

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He has never wrestled KANE, but Sheamus is a yes.

[video=youtube;8EQ6xEyVmIc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EQ6xEyVmIc[/video]

I'll watch it later to see if it's a BOTCH FEAST or not.
 

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He has never wrestled KANE, but Sheamus is a yes.

[video=youtube;8EQ6xEyVmIc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EQ6xEyVmIc[/video]

I'll watch it later to see if it's a BOTCH FEAST or not.



This match actually shows how sheamus had to carry to him the whole match . Sin cara did nothings other than a couple of kicks and the end pin .
 

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Jesus Christ @MrMayhem, stop ripping Sin Cara apart the guy is over, he can wrestle, he will be a star as soon as he gets the elevated exposure that's coming his way. Ur picking holes in a guy who is basically a new comer. Fuck, what's ur problem? ur looking for stuff that just isn't there. Not everyone can put on a Bret Hart/Mr Perfect level match but there's more to wrestling than that. Don't even retort, ur talkin outta ur ass, give it a rest.
 

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Jesus Christ @MrMayhem, stop ripping Sin Cara apart the guy is over, he can wrestle, he will be a star as soon as he gets the elevated exposure that's coming his way. Ur picking holes in a guy who is basically a new comer. Fuck, what's ur problem? ur looking for stuff that just isn't there. Not everyone can put on a Bret Hart/Mr Perfect level match but there's more to wrestling than that. Don't even retort, ur talkin outta ur ass, give it a rest.

I am not ripping him , infact i would love to see change in WWE wrestling Style . Its been a long time we've seen small high flyers . But the my point was he is overhyped . I actually started liking him after he took the bump in MITB match last year , which showed that he is willing to stepup the game and achieve something in WWE . But the reason
WWE has been booking him with Hunico is because he cant wrestle big guys or why do you think WWE would book him with the same guy 100 times .

and BTW , Hunico is a million time better than him . look his matches in Superstars with gabriel and kidd . He can also wrestle big guys , shows charisma and is better on mic than sin cara .
 

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Hunico is better than him simply because he spent time down in FCW learning the new style of wrestling, plus he can speak English. It's not Sin Cara's fault he is a massive draw in Mexico and that they wanted him to bypass FCW straight to the main roster.
 

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Hunico is not better on the mic than Sin Cara, Hunico is just better at speaking English
 

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So in a company where speaking English is a priority, he's better.
 

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Actually, I think Hunico is a very underrated mic worker. Some of the stuff he has said about the Ted Diabise's Posse Parties are just legit gold.
 

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and plus in-ring he can easily wrestle big and small guys . Look up his matches on Superstars . Hunico is far better than sin cara and the important thing is he is charismatic . He does good job playing his character .