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In the tag match he lost to R-Truth and Fu Naki
He lost to MATT HARDY and R-Truth.
In the tag match he lost to R-Truth and Fu Naki
1) It hyped SS team match. BTW, I dont think he came out looking weak from that lose. They wrestled for 15 minutes and he dominated for mostly all the match.
2) You see the ECW belt as equal to the US title as an IWC member. To the casual fan, and as the WWE expect them to portray it, it is the top belt of a brand and almost a World Belt (technically you can still use the Royal Rumble to challenge for the ECW championship), so yeah, Hardy is above him.
He lost to MATT HARDY and R-Truth.
I assume you mean the Matt Hardy match. Yes, he looked strong in the match but still, he lost, and all the domination can't change what impression the casual fan gets at the end of the match, and that is that Matt must be better and that Shelton lost, he must suck
just questioned why he would need to face people higher than him and lose every time. I understand him losing but not having him in the match in the first place
There was also a Shelton/MVP v Funaki/Truth match where the heels lost. He didn't get pinned, but that's not what the casual fans remember.
It does. It is not the same MVP getting squashed by Khali than Shelton dominating and losing by one out of nowhere TOF.
Ok, tell me something. You don't want him losing to people higher than him, hell, you don't want him even competiting with them. You say he needs to face people on the same level. He's paired with Helms and they have Helms a win so that Shelton has something to do for about a month, and you whine about that, because if you expect Shelton vs Helms on PPV, and no, not because Helms beat Benjamin clean and nothing will come out of it, but simply because that feud is not PPV material. But anyways, moving on, tell me then who should face Shelton, and oh, how will you build a feud around him since:
1) You dont want him to lose.
2) You expect every feud to end on a PPV, or then it means nothing.
What I don't want is a pre taped heel promo by Shelton, followed by a tag match and then the champion retaining and ending the fued next week. That means nothing to me, and it would make Shelton's loss worthless
No, I expect every feud to actually mean something, not to have a random selection about matches and maybe a 'highly emotional' stare down or a pre taped promo. I believe I've gone on enough about this and made my points clear.
The incentive to make this thread came watching this week's Smackdown when the United States Champion Shelton Benjamin lost to Hurricane Helms by a clean pinfall. And let's face it, he has been buried like this throughout his entire reign. And this can't go on forever, something needs to be done. After all the pointless losses and feuds gone nowhere he just looks like a crap champion. He did basically nothing after beating Matt Hardy and looked like a transitional champion from the beginning. Then he was involved in the scramble and lost to the main eventers he was working with at the time. Then came the pointless feud with R-Truth where he lost cleanly like, three times, and in the end nothing came of it. That feud, imo, was the ime for him to lose his title. Now he just got beaten clean by a guy who just returned last week, and he'll have to defend his title against him next week. Shelton really needs to be booked better imo, and I think he needs to get rid of the title. As much as I like the guy, I think that it will now be too hard to make him return to a dominant champion and the best option now would be having him lose the title. He is also making the championship look shit in the process
Benjamin will always be a good option for multi person matches or as a credible midcard belt contender, but not as a champion. He isn't that good of a personality to put a belt on, and it looks like he failed again this time. I wouldn't blame it on him having no competition, it's just him being boring when he's not jumping off of a ladder. He doesn't really get heat either, it's more of just a "boo" instead of "I hate you" type of heat.
As far as him jobbing, I agree. Shelton is going nowhere, which is why I thought what I said above is a good idea
I liked his Momma gimmick but not a lot of others seem to agree on that one. Hey, it gave him heat, a few good feuds and a good mid card belt run. If only he had something like that happen to him again
From there I read that Shelton being jobbed to people higher on the card is bad, and that it is made worse by the fact that he happens to be the US Champ, but the main point was that Sheltomn was being jobbed when he deserved better.
And I am not the only one that understood that from your post, as the posts you have received are concerning on how Shelton has to changed, on how he needs to be pushed, what needs to be done about him, NOT about the US belt.
Lol, please tell me a good feud he had in that gimmick.
I enjoyed the RVD one, but that may have been after the gimmick. Either way the gimmick got him in the position for that feud. Also, the Ric Flair one was alright, I enjoyed it from what I remember
I implied that jobbing Shelton to everyone was bad, and that it was made owrse by him being champ.
I want the US Champ, whoever it may be, to be booked stronger.
If Shelton cant make a good feud, which we have different ideas about, then I guess we need a new champ that be booked to have a good feud and look good at it.
Losing MITB got him in position for that feud.
Yeah, you ask for exactly the same on both posts.
But his gimmick got him the IC title, and that was what made the fued interesting, the double stip match at Backlash. And Shelton was in a slump before the gimmick, who knows if he would even be good enough to be in MITB without it.
So, it's not like they contradict each other, what are you getting at?
So decide yourself on what made the feud interesting, a gimmick that when the match arrived was no longer existing, or the stipulation.
I thought I was the idiot, but hey, at least I understand sarcasm.