Seth Rollins appreciation thread: The Messiah, The Savior, The Architect

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God I hate rasslin fans......blame blame blame....then do a 180 because....heel turn.

Also, funny how this is his work and not creative......funny how that happens.
 
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God I hate rasslin fans......blame blame blame....then do a 180 because....heel turn.

Also, funny how this is his work and not creative......funny how that happens.

Would you rather they keep shitting on it? You always seem to try to defend WWE and it’s finally getting some strong praise why not embrace it?

Also, I don’t know why you don’t understand that sometimes a character change can vastly affect your opinion of their work. Sometimes creative for a babyface can be absolutely atrocious and when they turn them heel it’s not.

I would say it’s both him and creative. Heyman has really turned his creative direction around the last few months and the heel turn of Rollins is a part of it. Rollins deserves equal credit for this because he’s such a natural at portraying the character. If he sucked at making the character work it wouldn’t matter if the creative was good. Same can not be said in the other direction. Bad creative is hard to salvage no matter how good you are at trying to work it.
 
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Character change just means "be a heel"......fuck it....let's make everyone a heel.

It's so transparent the way this entire shit is nitpicked because some fanboys boner for the "bad guys" and think that cheap heat crowd insults and attacking g people from behind is so cool.

It's also so obvious that most of those fanboys just do this shit to be contrarian.
 

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Character change just means "be a heel"......fuck it....let's make everyone a heel.

It's so transparent the way this entire shit is nitpicked because some fanboys boner for the "bad guys" and think that cheap heat crowd insults and attacking g people from behind is so cool.

It's also so obvious that most of those fanboys just do this shit to be contrarian.
Or make entertaining babyfaces?

Not everyone is a contrarian because they don't agree with you.

Stone Cold didn't have this problem and when they did turn him heel the fans hated it. So, yeah.
 

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The Rock is the perfect example of a babyface that bombed so they turned him heel and got hugely over and then they turned baby again but learned from the mistakes of the first run and let hm be a babyface with an edge that fans actually wanted to cheer for.
 

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Steve Austin didn't have thousands of morons who think they know about booking nitpicking everything.

He also didn't have people going out of their way to act like a babyface isn't a real baby face because they bent a rule or insulted someone on TV. Thanks alot booking geniuses......we can't have entertaining babyfaces because they're stuck in a box by the people who claim everyone would benefit from a heel turn.
 

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Dwayne Johnson is more over now being that positivity guy on Instagram than he was playing The Rock.
 

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Steve Austin didn't have thousands of morons who think they know about booking nitpicking everything.

He also didn't have people going out of their way to act like a babyface isn't a real baby face because they bent a rule or insulted someone on TV. Thanks alot booking geniuses......we can't have entertaining babyfaces because they're stuck in a box by the people who claim everyone would benefit from a heel turn.
That's a no from me, dog. If WWE actually booked an anti-hero babyface today the fans would eat it up.

That's the problem WWE is booking themseles into this corneer by neutering their babyfaces and fans hate it.
 
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They tried that.....his name was Roman Reigns......and since he was somehow the chosen one.....marks tried to sabotage his push.
 

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They tried that.....his name was Roman Reigns......and since he was somehow the chosen one.....marks tried to sabotage his push.
I loved Roman Reigns, but dude no they didn't.




Roman was also the victim of being pushed during the rise of Daniel Bryan and the IWC couldn't deal with it.
 

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There are alot of self-entitled fans who don't know dick about pro wrestling. There is also mostly awful creative in WWE for the past several years. They aren't mutually exclusive. Both things can be true, and are true in this case, IMO.

Also, social media is the worst. It gives those self-entitled fans who know nothing a voice. But at the same time, if it didn't exist, we still might have Seth as the WWE's generic babyface. It is what it is. But I don't know how anyone can't see that this new character is much more natural for him and he seems alot more comfortable in it. Just my opinion.