Ryback wrestling on Main Event

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Ryback vs. Alberto Del Rio will take place on this week's episode of WWE Main Event, airing earlier at 6:30pm EST.

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I actually like the main event thing. I usually don't watch when it airs but when i'm bored. Pretty cool show and i'll check it out.
 

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Ryback vs. Alberto Del Rio will take place on this week's episode of WWE Main Event, airing earlier at 6:30pm EST.

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WHO CARE? AS I DON'T?! I don't want to see that Goldberg RIP OFF!
 

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Seabs said:
Really? Not even ADR can carry him imo.

Is the guy really all to blame though? I reckon that if Ryback wasn't booked too strong and 'Berto was actually allowed to get in some proper offence he would definitely be able to work a decent match with him. I'm actually pretty hopeful that WWE learned at HiaC that you can't have a guy with a moveset that only consists of impact moves be dominant for a massive portion of the match.
 

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And the match at Survivor Series was much better from Ryback's part in my opinion.
 

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Re: RE: Ryback wrestling on Main Event

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Is the guy really all to blame though? I reckon that if Ryback wasn't booked too strong and 'Berto was actually allowed to get in some proper offence he would definitely be able to work a decent match with him. I'm actually pretty hopeful that WWE learned at HiaC that you can't have a guy with a moveset that only consists of impact moves be dominant for a massive portion of the match.

Yes, after 7 years he should be able to either work with circumstances or understand how to structure one in a suitable manner.
 

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Re: RE: Ryback wrestling on Main Event

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And the match at Survivor Series was much better from Ryback's part in my opinion.

He's ok with someone to offer the filler, he can't do a 15 minute match on his own imo.
 

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Seabs said:
Yes, after 7 years he should be able to either work with circumstances or understand how to structure one in a suitable manner.

But he's not booked like the modern superface should be and he suffers from that. Cena, Sheamus, Orton etc can all spend the majority of the match being worked over by the heel before coming back and hitting a flurry of moves, Ryback can't do the same as that would make him 'look too weak'.
 

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Re: RE: Ryback wrestling on Main Event

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But he's not booked like the modern superface should be and he suffers from that. Cena, Sheamus, Orton etc can all spend the majority of the match being worked over by the heel before coming back and hitting a flurry of moves, Ryback can't do the same as that would make him 'look too weak'.

Who said he needed to use that mentality? A basic understanding of psychology would suffice rather than simply looking like he's hitting spots.
 

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Seabs said:
Who said he needed to use that mentality? A basic understanding of psychology would suffice rather than simply looking like he's hitting spots.

But surely that's WWE's decision rather than his? I agree that he needs more fluidity rather than just one move straight into another, but the main reason why his matches have been so poor is because he's told to completely no sell pretty much.
 

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Re: RE: Ryback wrestling on Main Event

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But surely that's WWE's decision rather than his? I agree that he needs more fluidity rather than just one move straight into another, but the main reason why his matches have been so poor is because he's told to completely no sell pretty much.

Disagree, guys can make that work well (Brock as a prime example) Ryback has been in this biz for around 7 years and still can't do it. Even Henry was more interesting in ring imo.
 

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Disagree, guys can make that work well (Brock as a prime example) Ryback has been in this biz for around 7 years and still can't do it. Even Henry was more interesting in ring imo.

Brock's an incredible worker, but from the little I've seen of his matches as a face he was worked over enough to fill the match (One example I can think of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3PCVw2mpYw ). At HIAC vs Punker or ME vs Ziggler did either heel actually get any decent period of offence? It's near impossible for him to be interesting unless he takes some sort of a beating for a decent period of the match. I'm not saying he is a good worker, but it is unfair to judge him under these circumstances.
 

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Re: RE: Ryback wrestling on Main Event

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Brock's an incredible worker, but from the little I've seen of his matches as a face he was worked over enough to fill the match (One example I can think of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3PCVw2mpYw ). At HIAC vs Punker or ME vs Ziggler did either heel actually get any decent period of offence? It's near impossible for him to be interesting unless he takes some sort of a beating for a decent period of the match. I'm not saying he is a good worker, but it is unfair to judge him under these circumstances.

The match with Angle? That was pretty even offense imo also how about Goldberg or Samoa Joe when he was in ROH and bursting into TNA? I'm not questioning Ryback as such as why after 7 years he can't complete a full match with adaption for his character.