Round 2: Quadrant 1 Matchup 4

[The New F'n Show]

13. Ultimo Dragon

5. Nick Bockwinkel

 

[Heisenberg]

Tough decision but went with Ultimo Dragon.

 

[Slim]

Ultimo has more belts... so he wins

 

[The New F'n Show]

Bockwinkel for me, he was the AWA Flair. I know Cork calls him bland but that's just crazy.

 

[Andrew]

Ultimo for me.

 

[Kiffy Lube]

Ultimo was a solid talent but I don't think he could have ever been the man Bockwinkel was in AWA. Now that was CHAMPIONSHIP material despite how much gold Ultimo has worn at one time.

Also, Ultimo has stage freight in front big crowds. He just couldn't seem to deliver on American soil when he needed to.

 

[chefboyardee]

another awa champ.voted bockwinkle.you cant be champ if u cant speak english

 

[The Cork]

Bockwinkel for me, he was the AWA Flair. I know Cork calls him bland but that's just crazy.

I feel obliged to explain.

The guy won his first AWA title in '75, when he was 40. The AWA and Vern Gagne kept him on top until 1987, because Gagne was convinced that real wrestling fans wanted serious guys like Bockwinkle over "flashy" guys like Hogan, Martel and Lawler. Kind of the same reason why ROH is failing now.

In interviews he spoke in a clear manner. Without emotion or character. In short - devoid of drama. Bockwinkle wasn't a talker. It's why he needed Bobby Heenan so much even as AWA champion.

In the ring, he was fundamentally sound. That's the polite way of saying boring. Zero flash. No drama. I can't imagine people actually paying to see him laying on the mat mauling guys like GSP for 20 minutes in a pre-titantron era.

AWA had Bockwinkle as champion when the NWA had Ric Flair and WWF had Hulk Hogan. Guess which promotion when downhill the fastest?

 

[Canadian Pothead]

Went with Nick Bockwinkel as I think he'd be more believable as a champ than Ultimo Dragon.

 

[Smartmark]

Very hard choise, but my vote goes to Ultimo Dragon!

 

[Chris]

These are getting harder and harder to vote, but I went with Ultimo.

 

[BDC]

Nick Bockenwhat? lol...Ultimo Dragon!

 

[AZUCAR!]

Ultimo Dragon for me

 

[The New F'n Show]

I feel obliged to explain.

The guy won his first AWA title in '75, when he was 40. The AWA and Vern Gagne kept him on top until 1987, because Gagne was convinced that real wrestling fans wanted serious guys like Bockwinkle over "flashy" guys like Hogan, Martel and Lawler. Kind of the same reason why ROH is failing now.

In interviews he spoke in a clear manner. Without emotion or character. In short - devoid of drama. Bockwinkle wasn't a talker. It's why he needed Bobby Heenan so much even as AWA champion.

In the ring, he was fundamentally sound. That's the polite way of saying boring. Zero flash. No drama. I can't imagine people actually paying to see him laying on the mat mauling guys like GSP for 20 minutes in a pre-titantron era.

AWA had Bockwinkle as champion when the NWA had Ric Flair and WWF had Hulk Hogan. Guess which promotion when downhill the fastest?

I''ll give you about 75% of this. He wasn't a great mic guy but he got over enough with it, Heenan was there for a reason. Don't find him close to boring in the ring though, he was as crisp as could be. He did everything with polish and had some really good bouts the ones with Henning at the top.

 

[Chriss]

Hard one but I go with Ultimo Dragon.