Rock/Hogan drew more for Wrestlemania 18 than Rock/Austin drew for Wrestlemania 17

[CakeWalker]

Number provided by you showing why CM PunkvsJericho and HHHvs.Taker at WM28 were not major draw = Zero

You = Not a reliable source.

 

[RLStern]

Number provided by you showing why CM PunkvsJericho and HHHvs.Taker at WM28 were not major draw = Zero

You = Not a reliable source.

Numbers provided By me showing CM Punk, HHH, Jericho, Taker not being major draws thus not drawing at WM 28 = MITB 2011, SS 2011, entire years of 2002-2004, 1995-1997. Showing none of them are draws.


Numbers provided by you showing they were draws without other major draws on major shows = Zero

You = Refuted

 

[CakeWalker]

You have no numbers for WM 28. There is no more debate.
I am talking about Wrestlemania 28 - nothing else. I don't care about any other of these event. I only care about WM 28 and the numbers for that one pay per view. The BEST PAY PER VIWS BY BUYRATE IN THE HISTORY OF WRESTLING.

 

[RLStern]

You have no numbers for WM 28. There is no more debate.
I am talking about Wrestlemania 28 - nothing else. I don't care about any other of these event. I only care about WM 28 and the numbers for that one pay per view. The BEST PAY PER VIWS BY BUYRATE IN THE HISTORY OF WRESTLING.

How are we going to know who drew what for Wrestlemania 28 if we don’t know how big they are?

You can only know by assessing their draw.

The undercard weren’t draws and the only draws on the entire card was Rock/Cena, therefore Rock/Cena was the reason for that 1,217,000 number.

If you want to nonsensically say they were draws and therefore drew the show, then you need to prove they are draws.

 

[CakeWalker]

Example:

Person A: Can you tell me how many people attended that 2019 Super Bowl.

Person B: I can tell you what happened in 2002-2004 - and why they were the best Super Bowl games of all time.

Person A: But I asked about the attendance of 2019.

Person B: I REFUTE YOU! I REFUUUUUUUTEEE YOU!

In this example you are person B. ​

 

[RLStern]

Example:

Person A: Can you tell me how many people attended that 2019 Super Bowl.

Person B: I can tell you what happened in 2002-2004 - and why they were the best Super Bowl games of all time.

Person A: But I asked about the attendance of 2019.

Person B: I REFUTE YOU! I REFUUUUUUUTEEE YOU!



In this example you are person B.​

You’re asking me to show you they didn’t draw the Wrestlemania 28 show, that can only be done with numbers outside of Wrestlemania 28.

Using Wrestlemania 28 as proof of them being draws doesn’t work, since it’s a Rock/Cena headline, and they never drew anywhere else.

The burden is on you to prove they are draws and drew Wrestlemania 28, I already shown proof via 2002-2004, mid 90s etc numbers that they didn’t draw for Wrestlemania 28.

You have yet to provide any numbers showing Punk/Jericho and HHH/Taker contributed to the Wrestlemania 28 buyrate nor have you provided any numbers for the claim that they are draws.

 

[CakeWalker]

You have yet to provide any numbers showing that Punk/Jericho and HHH/Taker didn't contributed to the Wrestlemania 28 buyrate nor have you provided any numbers for the claim that they weren't draws.

 

[RLStern]

You have yet to provide any numbers showing that Punk/Jericho and HHH/Taker didn't contributed to the Wrestlemania 28 buyrate nor have you provided any numbers for the claim that they weren't draws.

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No no, the burden is on you to show that they drew for Wrestlemania 28.

You have to prove it, we already know that Rock/Cena drew Wrestlemania 28.

It’s up to you to show proof that they contributed to the Wrestlemania 28 buyrate, otherwise only Rock/Cena is the sole reason for the buyrate.

So I’ll be waiting on that proof that they are draws.

 

[CakeWalker]

You are probably the only person on this site that doesn't think they drew for Wrestlemania 28. You have the strange outlook on life and reality. Also you have no authority behind statement like this:

It’s up to you to show proof that they contributed to the Wrestlemania 28 buyrate, otherwise only Rock/Cena is the sole reason for the buyrate.

This statement is not 1+1 = 2

Until you can provide the numbers - all you are doing doing is deflecting.

 

[RLStern]

You are probably the only person on this site that doesn't think they drew for Wrestlemania 28. You have the strange outlook on life and reality. Also you have no authority behind statement like this:

It’s up to you to show proof that they contributed to the Wrestlemania 28 buyrate, otherwise only Rock/Cena is the sole reason for the buyrate.

This statement is not 1+1 = 2

Until you can provide the numbers - all you are doing doing is deflecting.

The burden is on you. You say they drew for Wrestlemania 28... prove it.

If I claim Mark Henry drew for Wrestlemania 28, that would be stupid and I would have to prove it.

The burden is on you, still waiting for you to show me where these guys drew.

You say they’re draws... Prove it.

 

[CakeWalker]

Until you can provide the numbers - all you are doing doing is deflecting.

 

[RLStern]

Until you can provide the numbers - all you are doing doing is deflecting.

Deflecting what?

You claim they drew for Wrestlemania 28, the burden of proof is on you to prove that and that they drew.

If you can’t do that, you’re entire argument is full of shit. I’ve already proven guys like CM Punk weren’t big names.

You claim they are, you prove it.

 

[CakeWalker]

You haven't proven anything to do with Wrestlemania 28. God this is embarrassing.

 

[RLStern]

I’m not understanding what’s so hard for @Juice to prove that the people she claims are draws.... are draws.

No numbers, nothing.

Only “They drew Wrestlemania 28 because they drew Wrestlemania 28” or “They were big draws because they were big draws”

Notice how I posted years, and actual numbers, she hasn’t provided squat because she has zero proof.

 

[RLStern]

@Juice I’m waiting, where’s the numbers, the proof that they drew?