Referee's now nameless, ECW commentary edited

[the dark knight]

^^there's no need to go that far. im kinda lazy to continue this tbh. if anyone else gets my point, please explain to him.

 

[Beer]

I do believe that was a joke. Stupid.. :shifty:

 

[Axis]

I'm not sure many other people would agree with you, since you're wrong, TDK. "Five-star" is a widely used term, and to label it as a "smark term" is just silly. A movie can be five stars, a chick can be five stars, and a football game can be the game of the year. TO box those terms into wrestling doesn't make sense.

 

[★Chuck Zombie★]

The reason why they edited it is because having commentators rave over a mid-card match on one of their lowest rated shows makes their RAW Main Events look bad because the commentators aren't saying the same thing about those matches (although last RAW had quite a few great matches).

 

[the dark knight]

The reason why they edited it is because having commentators rave over a mid-card match on one of their lowest rated shows makes their RAW Main Events look bad because the commentators aren't saying the same thing about those matches (although last RAW had quite a few great matches).

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or it was simply so they don't degrade other real five star matches.

anyway

Smark terms? Really, TDK?

By them calling a match five star, or a MOTY candidate, they're not "breaking kayfabe", what they're doing is calling a great match... a great match.

God forbid that announcers actually try to give some love, and put over the younger guys when they put on a great match.

did you miss the part where i said there are other ways to describe a great match than to use a term that is more commonly used among smarks? they're trying to detach their product from any of that shit.

oh and guys, quit it with the kiddy "5 stars is used to describe lots of things" bit.

 

[Soulpower]

oh and guys, quit it with the kiddy "5 stars is used to describe lots of things" bit.

Its not a bit. You've never heard the term 5-star restaurant? 5-star safety features for a car? 5-Star For.... *Gets shot*

 

[the dark knight]

are you serious? you really think i never heard those? im looking for an answer here cuz i actually think that YOU think i live in a cave or something :/

dude, its like two way words. words everybody uses normally but put in the right sentence can refer to something else. same thing with "five star match". what you're arguing is like this:
student: i got huge balls
teacher: PERVERT!
student: no im not! there are footballs, basketballs, softballs and hardballs.

meh, too lazy. if you cant get the point then fuck it.

 

[Axis]

oh and guys, quit it with the kiddy "5 stars is used to describe lots of things" bit.

You mean quit pointing out an argument that completely shoots your argument to pieces, because you can't come up with a counter-argument? Okay, Legend.

 

[the dark knight]

are you blind or stupid? nice work, smartass. quote a sentence and leave out the rest. amazing.

 

[Axis]

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anyway

did you miss the part where i said there are other ways to describe a great match than to use a term that is more commonly used among smarks? they're trying to detach their product from any of that shit.

oh and guys, quit it with the kiddy "5 stars is used to describe lots of things" bit.

You mean quit pointing out an argument that completely shoots your argument to pieces, because you can't come up with a counter-argument? Okay, Legend.

 

[CenaMark54]

I don't think we should be so quick to jump all over TDK. He does make a logical point.

The term "5 star match" is in fact a smarky term. I don't care how mainstream 5 star is in other areas like restaurants or movies. How often do you hear a casual wrestling fan go to a star rating system to describe the action he sees at a wrestling event?

Would it be alright if Striker came out and said how great someones storytelling was? Or how great the workrate was in that match? Or how a certain wrestler is a great seller?'

Although it may be debatable with the whole "entertainment" thing, the WWE doesn't want its audience to think its wrestlers are actors putting on a performance. Thats what any rating system implies in the wrestling industry.

The term match of the year is another story. They simply didn't think that a match on ECW warranted such praise when you have your top guys wrestling on Monday nights and Taker/HBK putting on a classic a mere two weeks earlier.

 

[the dark knight]

just when you think you're the only one who has a brain over his shoulders...thanks man.

 

[Axis]

Match of the year can also hint that wrestling is fake, but that is okay. Just on Smackdown, JR (Or Girsham?) said that Michaels/Undertaker was "one of the best matches of all time." You cannot have one and not the other. The fact that they can say it about the Undertaker and not John Morrison shows that it is about making their stars look good, not about smarky terms. Mind you, they are RIGHT in saving "five star" and "MOTY" for their big-time matches. However, it is not because "five star" and "...of the year" are wrestling terms.

 

[CenaMark54]

Match of the year can also hint that wrestling is fake, but that is okay. Just on Smackdown, JR (Or Girsham?) said that Michaels/Undertaker was "one of the best matches of all time." You cannot have one and not the other. The fact that they can say it about the Undertaker and not John Morrison shows that it is about making their stars look good, not about smarky terms. Mind you, they are RIGHT in saving "five star" and "MOTY" for their big-time matches. However, it is not because "five star" and "...of the year" are wrestling terms.

You are probably right about the whole "five star" thing. However, I don't think that it is out of the realm of possibility that Vince would not want to give credence to a rating system used by Dave Meltzer. Especially considering he hasn't been so kind to when judging WWE matches in the past.

Lets just say you have never watched anything but the WWE (which is the way the WWE wants it at this point). You hear an announcer call something a five star match. You go home, head onto the internet and do a web search for other five star matches. In turn, you find about 100 Japanese matches and only a few WWE matches. Well, that must mean wrestling in Japan is better than the WWE, right?