RAW Hits Record Low Rating

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Ratings are overrated (see what I did there?) and one of the least important metrics of popularity. Even during the period in the mid-90's when WWF was losing money, they still had great ratings and were setting record numbers for a Cable show. That should really put things into perspective. Most people who watch on television are never even gonna spend money on the product in any way, shape, or form either, so that's something else that should be taken into account. People are also ditching their cable subscription bills left and right, so ratings are eventually bound to go down regardless. Even a massively popular show like The Walking Dead experienced a slight ratings hit this year.

I still think it stings Vince a little because regardless of three million people still being an awful lot of people, it's still only 1/4 of what his television audience was not even a whole year ago. But I seriously doubt there's any legitimate panic in Stamford right now.
 

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They should give Tommy Dreamer the belt. That will definitely swing things their way.
 

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Anyways this really sucks for WWE and they just don't get it. I even think I can run the show and put on good product at this point to bring fans back.

Like here's how I would book some things leading to Mania

I would make the IC title match a TLC match and have Ambrose win, i'd build Ambrose as a the hardcore lunatic fringe he should be to take on Rusev who can use someone better than Ryback. Owens will lose the rematch that will be made a tables match at the slammies, to build Ambrose as hardcore, for he will be the one who asks it to be a tables match. Colter returns to Swagger's side because he is way better there and Del Rio gets a persona change into a Mexican bad ass (y'know like Eddie but a different edge). Swagger and Del Rio feud for a bit, shit like Del Rio riding a low rider and Swagger destroying it happens. I would also have Ziggler join Breeze somehow, they become a tag team with a fabulous gimmick and will go on to feud against the Lucha Dragons who will could win at TLC. The New Day can go do something else like maybe feud with Ryback over his eating habits. Big E vs. Ryback can build, powerhouse vs. powerhouse stuff. I'm not sure about the Wyatts and Dudleys yet, Wyatts can build heat for Bray to win the title in 2016 starting with TLC. Dudleys i'm lost with, maybe they can continue feuding with Kofi and Xavier from the New Day? Not all tag teams have to be in title feuds. Sheamus retains at TLC against Reigns thanks to interference from the League, as I said in my Owens idea he wins the belt shockingly at the last Raw of 2015 vis Battle Royal then title match. As for Reigns, I was thinking a feud with King Barrett can build so Wade is finally out of the dirt again. Shit like Wade beating up a family member of Roman's can happen. Owens as I said face Bork at Mania when Bork whens the rumble. The League of Nations stays together, each help out one another with perspective feuds, Sheamus still needs a feud, but idk what that can be yet, maybe Neville once he's done with The Miz. Divas? Lost there lol.

But knowing the creative team and more importantly Vince, none of that will happen.
 

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Step one- give hurricane the Usa and IC
Step two- give Stacy keibler the divas title and a love storyline with...
step three- Rosey as the WWE heavyweight
step 4- meh maybe give roman the cruiserweight because he looks like a little bitch next to the one and only
what about 3 minute warning as Tag champions?!?!?!
 

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I sort of disagree. I think that Vince does care quiet a bit about the ratings. But you have to know the kind of guy Vince is. You cannot tell him anything. He believes he has a inherent predisposition as a third generation promoter that allows him to understand wrestling better than anyone else despite the fact that he never met his father before he was 12... that he considers himself a third generation promoter while insisting that he is in a different business than his grandfather and father were in... that TNA is not competition but that his contracts have no compete clauses that don't allow fired employees to work for TNA for a period of time...

The man is a walking delusion. It took the prospect of utter destruction to convince him to finally change when the Attitude Era was ushered in. He carried on for years doing poorly because he honestly believed he would be able to best WCW with his Billionaire Ted skits rather than improving his product. He still thinks that he knows what is best and he is likely befuddled that his ideas do not translate into better ratings. But Vince is not the kind of man who is going to listen to his fans and change until he absolutely has to. Instead, he believes he can just keep pounding out the product that he wants and fans are eventually going to have to begin enjoying it because... he's Vincent Kennedy McMahon DAMMNIT and he knows what is best for wrestling....uh, I mean sports entertainment...


Edit: To prove my point...take the Billionaire Ted skits themselves... the first one was completely about telling fans that WWF's product as better than WCW's and that is why fans should watch WWF. That Hogan and Savage were old so watch HBK and Hart... rather than improve his product his entire approach was to simply tell fans that his product was better... that's not someone you are going to get to listen to you very easily.

But things have changed now. Back then before the internet took off, television ratings and PPV buys were what they seeked out to gain. Now its Network subscriptions and followers on Twitter and Youtube. WWE might not be doing as good as they used to on cable television but they are killing it on Social media, and I think thats what the companies primary objective is now.

8.5 million YouTube followers
5.8 million Twitter followers
1.4 million network subscribers

those are the numbers that the company are probably paying attention to
 

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But things have changed now. Back then before the internet took off, television ratings and PPV buys were what they seeked out to gain. Now its Network subscriptions and followers on Twitter and Youtube. WWE might not be doing as good as they used to on cable television but they are killing it on Social media, and I think thats what the companies primary objective is now.

8.5 million YouTube followers
5.8 million Twitter followers
1.4 million network subscribers

those are the numbers that the company are probably paying attention to

Things have changed but YouTube subscriptions and Network subscriptions and social media are not going to appease either USA or Raw's sponsors and they are under no obligation to continue sponsoring a show when it tanks.

And yes Raw is still USA'S biggest show but if sponsors begin dropping off, it can create problems. USA and the sponsors pay for the show and regardless how WWE feels about YouTube, social media and the Network, USA and sponsors will not be comforted much by it.
 
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Things have changed but YouTube subscriptions and Network subscriptions and social media are not going to appease either USA or Raw's sponsors and they are under no obligation to continue sponsoring a show when it tanks.

And yes Raw is still USA'S biggest show but if sponsors begin dropping off, it can create problems. USA and the sponsors pay for the show and regardless how WWE feels about YouTube, social media and the Network, USA and sponsors will not be comforted much by it.

Im sure USA would like the ratings to be higher but they obviously aren't to concerned about it since they just took Smackdown to be on there channel which only gets like half of what Raw does.
 

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