Rate Raw 8/7/2017

[SWL]

fairly good Raw

Jason Jordan is bound to be a heel in the next few weeks. I can already see Angle going "what is wrong with these people?" and Jordan just not giving a shit and just keep squashing people. But if they wanna go through with that, they have to put the IC title on him so let's see if they really wanna go far with this guy. If not, Miz is gonna win with some screwy finish which basically means he stays a babyface
Banks being the new #1 contender makes perfect sense to me as she's probably the only one to pull out a good match out of Bliss at the moment. Emma had a great showing while Fox looks like she's completely lost in that ring. What is she doing with her legs ffs? For a veteran of almost 9 years she's STILL incredibly awkward and clumsy in a ring.
the whole Ambrose/Rollins story is great and I can't wait for that moment when those fists collide at Summerslam

A Blue kid smashing two rocks together and expecting
the surrounding people to find it just as entertaining as he does.

from the sound of it (meaning the crowd in the arenas) "the surrounding people" do enjoy the Strowman/Reigns feud. Obviously they can't satisfy everyone (you) but I don't like it when people who are in the minority act like they know how everybody else feels. Majority of people enjoy Braun/Roman, and I'd bet on that being the reason why they keep booking that match is because those are their 2 big stars right now who always get a good reaction out of their matches. The people in the crowd were literally on their feet throughout most of that match because they liked it that much. I said it before, I'll say it again. Vince knows his business better than all of us.

 

[Grievous 3D]

Banks being the new #1 contender makes perfect sense to me as she's probably the only one to pull out a good match out of Bliss at the moment.

And watch next week as Nia Jax sits on Sasha and
gets the match at Summerslam because Total Divas.

Emma had a great showing

Shame it doesn't mean shit. 5 years and all she gets
is a "showing" on RAW.

Vince knows his business better than all of us.

I didn't know Pat Patterson or Gerald Brisco
was a member here.

from the sound of it (meaning the crowd in the arenas) "the surrounding people" do enjoy the Strowman/Reigns feud.

I wouldn't know...I haven't watched a match
featuring that guy I don't mention since the
Royal Rumble.

And its cool if it works...because smart business
sense demands you take something that works
and keep doing it until everyone is sick of it and
they literally start begging for something different.

But hey...Vince knows better...so we should all
just shut the fuck up and cheer for the greasy
haired, smug faced Samoan as he does another
one of stupid flying punches and buries all the
other talent on the roster to try and get over.

 

[Jacob Fox]

Hey now, this thread is only big enough for one fight and that's me and Tommy Oliver.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Actually, you guys are fine. I just needed another opportunity to diss the ranger.

 

[SWL]

so we should all
just shut the fuck up and cheer

you always say that as if I told you that, stop putting words into my post. I never said that. All I said was that you shouldn't act like you're always the majority. If people cheer for Strowman/Reigns it's not because Vince printed out "cheer for this match or I'll take away your tickets" but it's genuinely because they like the matches. As much as people wanna go off on this but Vince cares and adjusts to people's reactions. And if, for example, Emma isn't getting reactions out of a crowd then she's not gonna get a title match at Summerslam if Vince has this mega star in Sasha Banks right next to her who gets a reaction out of any crowd. And don't even think about taking this as an Emma insult. Emma is great and everything but I'd personally also prefer a Sasha match over an Emma match.

 

[Grievous 3D]

this thread is only big enough for one fight

Does this count as a fight? I mean I'd call it discussion...
and I'm happy to keep going...

you always say that as if I told you that, stop putting words into my post.

I'm not putting words in your post...I'm interpreting your post
in my own basic, simple minded way.

All I said was that you shouldn't act like you're always the majority.

Dude...I'm an Australian wrestling fan...I'm in a minority...
not a majority. My opinions are my own from my own
observations...or say...my lack of observations as far
as that one guy I can't mention goes.

but Vince cares and adjusts to people's reactions.

Dude...that is the funniest thing I have ever read on this forum...

Vince cares and adjusts to people's reactions?

Are you kidding me?

If that was true then where are his "adjustments" as far the constant level
of booing his chosen one has been getting for more than a year now?

And don't give me the horseshit reason of "any reaction is a good reaction"
because if that was true...the WWE wouldn't edit audio and visual crowd
reactions to Vince's golden boy...which they are clearly guilty of doing in
the past.

I'm all for being positive about the product and there are still many
performers I enjoy watching...but seriously...are you a WWE share
holder or something?

And if, for example, Emma isn't getting reactions out of a crowd then she's not gonna get a title match at Summerslam if Vince has this mega star in Sasha Banks right next to her who gets a reaction out of any crowd. And don't even think about taking this as an Emma insult. Emma is great and everything but I'd personally also prefer a Sasha match over an Emma match.

No shit dude...I don't expect Emma to be getting title
shots at Summerslam...I just expect her to be given
a better level of treatment than wrestling Mickie James
on main event.

And Emma can't get over with the crowd as a face or
a heel if she isn't given an opportunity to do to so.

Sasha Banks is the biggest "star" on the RAW roster as
far as the women are concerned...and she is also the best
worker...which I believe I made clear the other week after
Bayley won the #1 contenders match.

 

[SWL]

And don't give me the horseshit reason of "any reaction is a good reaction"
because if that was true...the WWE wouldn't edit audio and visual crowd
reactions to Vince's golden boy...which they are clearly guilty of doing in
the past.

any reaction is a good reaction tho. Doesn't mean they wouldn't want them to cheer Reigns but they'd prefer people booing him out of the building than absolute silence. But as you put it yourself, that was in the past. Now they don't give a shit anymore and kinda play off of it. Some people still see Reigns as a big babyface which I find funny because I'd consider him a tweener. You could put Reigns in the ring with a babyface or a heel and it wouldn't matter because he's neither. Reigns/Styles worked perfectly even though Styles was a babyface. Same with the Taker feud (not talking about the match but moreso the feud).
I'm not dumb, I know they've made mistakes with him in the past but as of right now, there is absolutely no reason to give him any shit for booking Reigns the way he's getting booked.

Sasha Banks is the biggest "star" on the RAW roster as
far as the women are concerned...and she is also the best
worker...which I believe I made clear the other week after
Bayley won the #1 contenders match.

I'm pretty sure they would have turned Sasha heel and made it a triple threat. At least from the way it looked like when Bayley beat Sasha

 

[Jacob Fox]

Does this count as a fight? I mean I'd call it discussion...
and I'm happy to keep going...


.

No, it doesn't count as a fight and you guys can keep it going I only posted that so I could take a swipe at Greeny

 

[The Gipper]

Hey now, this thread is only big enough for one fight and that's me and Tommy Oliver.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Actually, you guys are fine. I just needed another opportunity to diss the ranger.

No, it doesn't count as a fight and you guys can keep it going :emoji_slight_smile: I only posted that so I could take a swipe at Greeny

No, banning is too good for him. I'll come up with something a lot more disgusting and devious...something a little more... dare I say ... McMahonesque...

 

[Eva Maryse]

Gave it a zero. Though I stopped watching once Bork started smashing the Miztourage. Miz is the only reason I still watch WWE and he's basically just the Brooklyn Brawler of this era, all he ever does is job. Its unbearable, and unwatchable seeing a guy work so hard and basically just be punished for it. He's probably not even going to get on the Summerslam card at all, all he does every week is just get destroyed. Like its at the point where I wish Maryse never returned, because she was the catalyst for Miz getting more consistent TV time. I'd rather the guy just stay off TV than stupidly get my hopes up like I have just to see him endlessly job to everyone. He never ever gets to stand tall. Weasel heel that never gets to do anything heelish because hes just constantly losing to every babyface.

 

[Grievous 3D]

any reaction is a good reaction tho. Doesn't mean they wouldn't want them to cheer Reigns but they'd prefer people booing him out of the building than absolute silence. But as you put it yourself, that was in the past. Now they don't give a shit anymore and kinda play off of it. Some people still see Reigns as a big babyface which I find funny because I'd consider him a tweener. You could put Reigns in the ring with a babyface or a heel and it wouldn't matter because he's neither. Reigns/Styles worked perfectly even though Styles was a babyface. Same with the Taker feud (not talking about the match but moreso the feud).
I'm not dumb, I know they've made mistakes with him in the past but as of right now, there is absolutely no reason to give him any shit for booking Reigns the way he's getting booked.

Okay...so...I don't want to talk about...that guy...anymore...

I see the points you're making...but I just don't care.
No one will change my opinion on...that guy...and I
refuse to watch him for a single second.

I can't stand the entire situation...and I honestly don't
like discussing it because its just more attention for
a guy who I personally think doesn't deserve to be in
the spot he's in.

He could have a 6 star match against Kenny Omega
and I still would not watch it.

I'm pretty sure they would have turned Sasha heel and made it a triple threat. At least from the way it looked like when Bayley beat Sasha

An interesting idea...but frankly I'm over the Sasha heel turn
at this point. They won't turn Sasha until they can replace
her with a babyface who is just as popular...and thanks to
their own terrible booking...it ain't going to be "Short Bus"
Bayley.

Now if they move Nikki Bella to RAW...then they may turn
Sasha...and I have to say...Face Nikki vs. Heel Sasha is
feud I got get behind...in more ways than one.

I just want Sasha to win the title and have a decent reign with it.

Dude...where did you get that footage of James Ellsworth's Dad?
And...
Speaking if Ellsworth...I hope he never comes back from his
suspension. Carmella doesn't need him!

Although she does need to start winning some matches...

 

[Nikki Nitro]

@Mike Thunder:
You gotta be kidding me... Not another Disagree! *Groans* :henry3:

 

[Nikki Nitro]

@Mike Thunder
@Green Power Ranger
Why Sufferinsuckatash, *Grumbles* .....Disagree... *More Grumbling

 

[SWL]

No one will change my opinion on...that guy...and I
refuse to watch him for a single second.

I can't stand the entire situation...and I honestly don't
like discussing it because its just more attention for
a guy who I personally think doesn't deserve to be in
the spot he's in.

wait.. are you talking about the juggernaut, Leati Joseph Anoaʻi, the powerhouse, the big dog, THE guy, ROMAN REIGNSOH GOD NO I SAID HIS NAME FUUUUCK

Spoiler

 

[The Gipper]

wait.. are you talking about the juggernaut, Leati Joseph Anoaʻi, the powerhouse, the big dog, THE guy, ROMAN REIGNSOH GOD NO I SAID HIS NAME FUUUUCK

Spoiler

Post of the year XD

 

[¡Tranquilo!]

I don't even watch RAW I'm just here for the rate thread.