Rate RAW 8/18/14

[Tgmiveld]

The graph showed that every time the lad was champ, mechandise sales went up

guess what? at the end of the day, it was because wrestling fans were buying into the product again

 

[Snowman1]

Don't think you can use last year's title reign as a true ability to draw, to be fair.

Orton as a pussy who can't win a match who's just holding the belt because Triple H wants him to = no buys
Orton as the lone badass babyface on the roster as champ (2010) = buys?

 

[Tgmiveld]

Don't think you can use last year's title reign as a true ability to draw, to be fair.

Orton as a pussy who can't win a match who's just holding the belt because Triple H wants him to = no buys
Orton as the lone badass babyface on the roster as champ (2010) = buys?

Exactly lad

Orton would have drawn the big booty number in 2010 if they would have given him a chance, but they booked cena ahead of him.

 

[Roadster]

The graph showed that every time the lad was champ, mechandise sales went up

guess what? at the end of the day, it was because wrestling fans were buying into the product again

How so?

Also, wouldn't buys be up if fans were buying into the product?

Exactly lad

Orton would have drawn the big booty number in 2010 if they would have given him a chance, but they booked cena ahead of him.

Actually in late 2013 the entire spotlight was on Orton (Sales were down) and Barrett and Cena along with Orton were running in 2010 (sales were up)

Don't think you can use last year's title reign as a true ability to draw, to be fair.

Orton as a pussy who can't win a match who's just holding the belt because Triple H wants him to = no buys
Orton as the lone badass babyface on the roster as champ (2010) = buys?

The circumstances were different. Edge was in the main evnet, Cena and Barrett was the actual story behind his match. In late 2013 the spotlight was completely on Orton.

 

[Tgmiveld]

if they would have gotten behind orton proper in 2009 or 2010, he would have been the premier performer of the entire promortion

 

[Roadster]

if they would have gotten behind orton proper in 2009 or 2010, he would have been the premier performer of the entire promortion

They did.

He main evented WrestleMania 25. Cena was WHC at the time and wasn't being pushed as much as Orton. 2009 and 2010 were his golden years.

 

[Tgmiveld]

They did.

He main evented WrestleMania 25. Cena was WHC at the time and wasn't being pushed as much as Orton. 2009 and 2010 were his golden years.

yeah but they fucked up

having him job to shane o-mac

it was discusting

 

[Roadster]

yeah but they fucked up

having him job to shane o-mac

it was discusting

Shane O Mac is considered to be one of the best workers in modern wrestling not because he's good in the ring but because he does everything and anything for the business/WWE. It was a good thing that he lost to him and it wasn't like he didn't take Batista, Triple H, Vince McMahon, Shane and Stephanie out in storyline.

 

[Tgmiveld]

Orton has never been pushed as the premier performer

Cena has always been billed on top

 

[Roadster]

Orton has never been pushed as the premier performer

Cena has always been billed on top

Probably because Cena never beat up reporters, went out in public to ask for cigs and Orton even admitted he was a major asshole at the time. He wasn't professional and he didn't get that push. Most recently exposed by calling that woman Ms. Pig.

 

[Tgmiveld]

Probably because Cena never beat up reporters, went out in public to ask for cigs and Orton even admitted he was a major asshole at the time. He wasn't professional and he didn't get that push. Most recently exposed by calling that woman Ms. Pig.

again you have stimulate the smartest lad

cena is easily pleased, someone as talented as orton needs motivating

as i have said, orton is too good to make it, like me

 

[Danielson]

Was pretty bored

 

[Roadster]

again you have stimulate the smartest lad

cena is easily pleased, someone as talented as orton needs motivating

as i have said, orton is too good to make it, like me

lol.

 

[Roadster]

Was pretty bored

See what I did there. Look above...remember...

 

[Red Rain]

Orton puts money in the till

Look at the business they do everytime he is champ, and guess why that is? Because he does what it says on the tin, and wrestles.

WWE are wasting their time, they need to relaise one thing. They need to motivate Orton, otherwise he will coast, the smartest always get jaded when the world does not motiavte them. Bryan was a great rep for us wrestling fans, we are the underdig against others in society, just like him. But Orton is the best, as well all know.

Just get rid of Cena, and let Orton feud with Brock

Of to the races lads

Using money as a valid argument is only convenient when you say so.
You're the same guy who labels us as materialistic because we care about the bells and whistles.
Suddenly, Orton is valid in your eyes because he brings in money.
By your admission, you live at home and have no job, That suits you, yet Orton set the bar because he draws in money?

Yuu contradict yourself so much, that you're eating your own a**hole buddy. Even a dog thinks you chase your own tail too much.