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I wouldn't worry about whether the post is pointless. I've seen posts a WAY lot more pointless (usually the majority of posts about John Cena *cough cough*).

Everyone has a fair share of shitting on Cena. I certainly don't have a problem with that.
 

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Everyone has a fair share of shitting on Cena. I certainly don't have a problem with that.

Well, the posts shitting on Cena are not the pointless ones I was referring to. Those are essential. I meant the ones supporting him are pointless ;)
 
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Well, the posts shitting on Cena are not the pointless ones I was referring to. Those are essential. I meant the ones supporting him are pointless ;)

Oh, apologies then. I totally misunderstood that post of yours.

Yup, can't argue with that.

Cheers, man!
 
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This was probably the best RAW in a long time. I meant to get this up sooner. Every RAW has to have some bad, but thank God this one had more good. 8/10

I liked:

The opening segment was great with Edge and Christian, two of my favorite guys. Only bad part was the Cena predictability. Cena is supposed to be the hero, but he put his hands on Heyman unprovoked. Other than that, a great opening.

Miz and Mizdow versus the Usos was the match of the night. It was an excellent match on the part of all the guys. I think it set up entry into the Rumble for Miz and Mizdow where I assume Miz will get eliminated, but Mizdow will refuse to do the stunt double deal and this will lead to the breakup.

Cesaro vs BNB was a good but short match. I was happy to see both guys.

Daniel Bryan's announcement was expected by me because WWE doesn't play a retirment announcement that way, but I am happy old Beardy will be in the Royal Rumble.

The Seth Rollins segment was absolutely done well. Seth is already the biggest heel in the company, but his attack on Edge was the icing on the cake. I believe Rollins has what it takes to be the next great career heel, if he goes in that direction. I won't put him up there with Ric Flair, Kurt Angle or Triple H quite yet, since his in ring work IMO is not yet comparable to those guys, but I am beginning to believe his character is on its way to being that. It was nice seeing Cena have to swallow his pride and I will always love rewatching the moment when he gives in and brings the Authority back.

During the segment, I was pretty strongly hoping for Orton to come back. That doesn't mean I support or like Orton, but it would have been another dynamic to add to the ending.

The Authority is back. 'Nuff said.

The Sting storyline can start coming into play with Triple H back on TV.

Triple H back on TV. The man is unparalled in within his generation in combination of talent and charisma. Having him around will make the weekly episodes less boring.


I didn't like:

Nattie vs Bella was boring.

Harper vs Swagger was boring.

It was nice to see the Acension, but that was a dull debut.

Show should never do commentary.

We KNOW this is not the end for Cena vs the Authority. Cena ALWAYS comes back and ends up ahead of his enemies.

I agree with most of it here.

First off, I totally agree this was easily the best RAW post-Survivor Series.
And, I completely agree with your dislikes here, except Harper vs Swagger. Sure, it could've been a lot better, but it wasn't that bad either, in my opinion. The Ascension debuting could've been better, though. It didn't really feel special.

- Seeing my boys, E&C back was a mark out moment for me. But then, Goody Two-Shoes had to come out and ruin that segment. So, Cena 'attacked' Heyman only to lure Lesnar in, that certainly justifies our little hero's actions. I also didn't like that they made The Beast look like The Bitch, (for lack of a better word) by retreating.
They're making it look like Cena's gonna win. But, let's just not go there.

- To be honest with ya, Mizdow was all I cared about in that match. Sure, it was a decent match, but nothing we haven't seen these guys do before. I guess it's just a matter of preference here. I just can't help, but love everything Mizdow does. I was surprised Miz & Mizdow had lost the titles before the Rumble. But that's okay, the sooner they feed The Usos to The Ascension, the better.
I also like your interpretation on how they're going to finally trigger the Miz/Mizdow feud. I've always thought about it this way... Mizdow will likely cause The Miz to get eliminated. Miz would, of course, be pissed off about it. So, in order to redeem himself to The Miz, Mizdow will do his usual stunt double work and get himself eliminated. That wouldn't matter to The Miz, so he'll prolly hit Mizdow and start beating him up. I could see this (beatdown on Mizdow) happening at either the Rumble or at post-Rumble RAW episode.

- Yes, Cesaro vs BNB was a bit short, but still a good match. They made the most of it. Good to have BNB back, indeed.

- I couldn't be more happier about mah boi, D-Bry being back. I never stopped believing he'd be back someday. It's really a dream come true that he's back in time for the Rumble and he'll hopefully win it.

- That final segment with Rollins taking Edge hostage in order for his plan to come to fruition was just grand. I enjoyed it. He's definitely been killing it on the mic and with his heel work lately. Loved it when Cena swallowed his pride and brought The Authority back. Man, they're gonna boo him out of the building next week. Shocker.

- Orton did return in the end, but that segment wasn't televised, though.

- Yeah, baybay! The Authority's back and all's well in this world now. They shouldn't have been put out of power (for just free.99) in the first place. But hey, they're back and we should be looking forward to that and all the good things.

- I agree with everything about HHH here. Sting/HHH storyline can pretty much start now, yeah. It should be interesting before culminating at WM 31.
 

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I agree with most of it here.

First off, I totally agree this was easily the best RAW post-Survivor Series.
And, I completely agree with your dislikes here, except Harper vs Swagger. Sure, it could've been a lot better, but it wasn't that bad either, in my opinion. The Ascension debuting could've been better, though. It didn't really feel special.

- Seeing my boys, E&C back was a mark out moment for me. But then, Goody Two-Shoes had to come out and ruin that segment. So, Cena 'attacked' Heyman only to lure Lesnar in, that certainly justifies our little hero's actions. I also didn't like that they made The Beast look like The Bitch, (for lack of a better word) by retreating.
They're making it look like Cena's gonna win. But, let's just not go there.

- To be honest with ya, Mizdow was all I cared about in that match. Sure, it was a decent match, but nothing we haven't seen these guys do before. I guess it's just a matter of preference here. I just can't help, but love everything Mizdow does. I was surprised Miz & Mizdow had lost the titles before the Rumble. But that's okay, the sooner they feed The Usos to The Ascension, the better.
I also like your interpretation on how they're going to finally trigger the Miz/Mizdow feud. I've always thought about it this way... Mizdow will likely cause The Miz to get eliminated. Miz would, of course, be pissed off about it. So, in order to redeem himself to The Miz, Mizdow will do his usual stunt double work and get himself eliminated. That wouldn't matter to The Miz, so he'll prolly hit Mizdow and start beating him up. I could see this (beatdown on Mizdow) happening at either the Rumble or at post-Rumble RAW episode.

- Yes, Cesaro vs BNB was a bit short, but still a good match. They made the most of it. Good to have BNB back, indeed.

- I couldn't be more happier about mah boi, D-Bry being back. I never stopped believing he'd be back someday. It's really a dream come true that he's back in time for the Rumble and he'll hopefully win it.

- That final segment with Rollins taking Edge hostage in order for his plan to come to fruition was just grand. I enjoyed it. He's definitely been killing it on the mic and with his heel work lately. Loved it when Cena swallowed his pride and brought The Authority back. Man, they're gonna boo him out of the building next week. Shocker.

- Orton did return in the end, but that segment wasn't televised, though.

- Yeah, baybay! The Authority's back and all's well in this world now. They shouldn't have been put out of power (for just free.99) in the first place. But hey, they're back and we should be looking forward to that and all the good things.

- I agree with everything about HHH here. Sting/HHH storyline can pretty much start now, yeah. It should be interesting before culminating at WM 31.

Yeah, the attack on Heyman was completely unprovoked. My sister was watching the show with me and we were both completely surprised when that happen. I mean, neither of us like Cena at all, but we found that so out of character for him (as you said, being "Goody Two Shoes.").

It would be remarkably stupid to have Cena take the belt back from Lesnar. We haven't had a world title match since September and to have Lesnar drop the belt at the Rumble pretty much makes the decision to put it on him at all completely irrelevant. That being said, it wouldn't be the stupidest choice they have ever made. But it would be so despicable to let Cena tie Ric Flair's WWE Recognized title record (Flair, in actuality, having held 21 World Championships not 16) by having him pointlessly drop the belt to Lesnar only to win it back.

They really should do something with Miz and Mizdow for the Rumble. I know neither guy has a chance of winning, but one idea could have been for Mizdow to win and Miz claiming the title shot much as he did with the tag team belts. Perhaps Miz can get eliminated early in the Rumble and he can try to claim Mizdow's later entry? The Rumble is the perfect place to begin the breakup of their team.

Other that, agree with most everythig. I am just happy it was a good show and a good show to talk about. Hope they continue.

I hope HHH and Steph have some delicious torment in store for John "The Narrator" Cena next Monday.
 

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Yeah, the attack on Heyman was completely unprovoked. My sister was watching the show with me and we were both completely surprised when that happen. I mean, neither of us like Cena at all, but we found that so out of character for him (as you said, being "Goody Two Shoes.").

It would be remarkably stupid to have Cena take the belt back from Lesnar. We haven't had a world title match since September and to have Lesnar drop the belt at the Rumble pretty much makes the decision to put it on him at all completely irrelevant. That being said, it wouldn't be the stupidest choice they have ever made. But it would be so despicable to let Cena tie Ric Flair's WWE Recognized title record (Flair, in actuality, having held 21 World Championships not 16) by having him pointlessly drop the belt to Lesnar only to win it back.

They really should do something with Miz and Mizdow for the Rumble. I know neither guy has a chance of winning, but one idea could have been for Mizdow to win and Miz claiming the title shot much as he did with the tag team belts. Perhaps Miz can get eliminated early in the Rumble and he can try to claim Mizdow's later entry? The Rumble is the perfect place to begin the breakup of their team.

Other that, agree with most everythig. I am just happy it was a good show and a good show to talk about. Hope they continue.

I hope HHH and Steph have some delicious torment in store for John "The Narrator" Cena next Monday.

- Sure it was unprovoked. That must've been Cena's inner heel persona coming out to play. lol Hustle. Loyalty. Turn Heel.

- I remember our long discussion about Cena taking the title away from Lesnar at the Rumble and how pointless would it be. I'll just agree with everything here... For all the obvious reasons you've mentioned.

- Oh, I'm positive they'll pull the trigger on Miz/Mizdow feud at the Rumble.
That's a nice scenario, but there's just no chance of Mizdow winning, in my opinion. But yeah, Miz getting eliminated early on and actually claiming Mizdow's spot later on would be another plausible option. I like your previous scenario better, though. The one where Miz'd get eliminated and Mizdow would refuse to do the stunt double deal. If any of our scenarios happen, it's cool, I guess. Mizdow's so over right now and deserves to go over The Miz at Mania, most likely.

- Just like you said, here's to hoping HHH and Steph do have some delicious torment for little Juanito. Giggled at John 'The Narrator' Cena, by the way.
 

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Last Raw of 2014 gets 8/10.
I liked the show, that was a really good heel moment with Rollins at the end to bring The Authority back. The Ascension debut was the worst thing out of that night, BNB turning face is crazy for a guy I know has been a total heel since day one. I've seen better Wyatt promos though, the one in the ambulance though didn't seem right, didn't look like the environment for him to be in, he's better off making promos in the dark.
 

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Last Raw of 2014 gets 8/10.
I liked the show, that was a really good heel moment with Rollins at the end to bring The Authority back. The Ascension debut was the worst thing out of that night, BNB turning face is crazy for a guy I know has been a total heel since day one. I've seen better Wyatt promos though, the one in the ambulance though didn't seem right, didn't look like the environment for him to be in, he's better off making promos in the dark.

Same rating I gave it.

Rollins killed it, man. I agree.

I wouldn't really call The Ascension's debut the worst thing of the night. I mean, I kinda liked it and it was sort of alright for what it was. But to each his own, though. We've definitely seen worse than that, in my opinion. I think we can agree it was kinda just thrown out there, ya know, like a filler segment, it didn't feel special.

BNB isn't really a face yet, imo, despite the good pop he's got and despite the fact he faced a heel. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he attacked DZ next week and started feuding with him. But we'll see. I don't think him being a face would do him any harm, he's so over with the crowd.
 

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Giggled at John 'The Narrator' Cena, by the way.

Haha. Yeah, I call him that because every one of his promos all he does is recap and narrate what's going on.

For example:

Vince McMahon: If the Authority is out of power, the only person with the power to bring them back will be John Cena.

John Cena: So now we have a match... and that match...if the Authority loses they will be taken out of power and the only person who can bring them back is John Cena.

Yeah, thanks, douche, we hadn't figured that out yet. God forbid you add anything new to the conversation. Sigh.
 
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RAW recap:

- Dolph Ziggler defeated Rusev via DQ

- Ryback attacks Rusev post match and cuts a good promo

- Nikki Bella defeated Natalya via pinfall

- The Usos defeated The Miz/Mizdow to win the tag team titles

- Cesaro cuts a good promo and goes on to lose to a returning Bad News Barrett

- Luke Harper defeated Jack Swagger via pinfall

- Roman Reigns defeated Seth Rollins via DQ by the Big Show

- Daniel Bryan announces that he'll be apart of the 2015 Royal Rumble

- The Ascension defeated The Miz/Mizdow via pinfall

- The Cutting Edge Peep Show with Seth Rollins ends up with John Cena bringing back The Authority due to Rollins threatening to paralyze Edge

Full results: PWMania

The *last* part STUNK!!!!!! STUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!! STUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STUNK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Can't tell if serious or sarcastic.
A little bit of both; Seth Rollins *should have been arrested* for threatening an individual's life in full view of the audience and those watching on tv; Cena would have been in the right to have the cops come in, handcuff him, and drag him out of the place! YEAH! The Authoirty story line can go FL ICK ITSELF!!!
 

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A little bit of both; Seth Rollins *should have been arrested* for threatening an individual's life in full view of the audience and those watching on tv; Cena would have been in the right to have the cops come in, handcuff him, and drag him out of the place! YEAH! The Authoirty story line can go FL ICK ITSELF!!!

Relax, man. All of it wasn't entirely real.

Anyways, in my opinion, this whole Authority saga has been one of the best storylines we've seen in a while.
 

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If we start taking the law into account then about half of wrestling angles ever shouldn't have happened.