Rate RAW 1/5/2015

[Jacob Fox]

Also am I the only one who thought Booker was god awful last night? god he was atrocious; made me want Lawler back. Just make the commentary team Big Show/Edge and be done with it.

No, I hate Booker as a commentator. He doesn't have the voice for it and doesn't have the personality for it. It was like having Randy Savage in 1993. Savage was only bearable because he played off Bobby Heenan. There is currently no one of Heenan's caliber commentating so Booker was just annoying.

 

[Jacob Fox]

He's still better than Lawler.

I was actually wondering when we'd end up disagreeing on something. I love Lawler, but I do think he's overstayed as commentator. Heel Lawler was great to listen to all of those years, but face Lawler is dull. But Booker just grates on my nerves.

 

[Jacob Fox]

Oh he already is delusional, I was referring more to something like Alzeimers or something that would leave Vince literally unable to perform the job rather then his current state however.

When you really think about it, it makes so much sense that Hogan is like he is; obsessed with this fictional history that makes him look like the greatest mind since Aristotle. Both he and Vince are so out there that they must have their heads still stuck in the Rock n Wrestling era. They were both on top of the world and can't accept the fact that their time has long passed.

 

[Prince Bálor]

I was actually wondering when we'd end up disagreeing on something. I love Lawler, but I do think he's overstayed as commentator. Heel Lawler was great to listen to all of those years, but face Lawler is dull. But Booker just grates on my nerves.

I never said I disliked heel Lawler. I loved heel Lawler. But face Lawler is just dull, he just doesn't care anymore.
I'm fine with Booker as a replacement, to be honest.

But to each his own, though.

 

[Jacob Fox]

I never said I disliked heel Lawler. I loved heel Lawler. But face Lawler is just dull, he just doesn't care anymore.
I'm fine with Booker as a replacement, to be honest.

But to each his own, though.

Oh, I know you didn't say you disliked heel Lawler. Sorry if that seemed implied. I often put too many thoughts in one paragraph.

The disagreement was that Booker was better than face Lawler. I hate Booker on commentary and would take face Lawler over him any day.

It's no big deal, I just thought ir would be amusing to point out.

 

[Leo C]

Wasn't he pushed this week?

Well, he lost. Granted, I know it wasn't clean, but still. Haven't we seen Dolph lay down enough? If they were going for a big push he could start maybe winning or something.

I heard this show was an absolute disaster, don't really know what happened, but have to rant about one thing.

Okay, you have the Ascension. As an act, I'm not a fan, but it doesn't matter what I think. There are Ascension fans out there - hell, there's plenty on here. And there's nothing wrong with that.

But these guys are on the Official WWE Main Roster payroll for TWO FUCKING WEEKS and they are ALREADY going out of their way to bury the shit out of these guys. Why? What if... lets say, you were a company that had any fucking clue what they were doing and not WCW 2.0, and actually tried to see what you had in stars? What if the crowd really did take to them to some extent? Wouldn't that be a GOOD thing? A much better thing than instead of cutting their throats two weeks in? These guys do have the chance to make youuuuuur show better, WWE, so why would you sabotage their careers like this and therefore YOUR OWN SHOW which is getting it's ass kicked in the ratings, is getting turned off in droves, and is trying to sell Network subscriptions on the back of a roster that's already 90% dead in the water since you keep doing stupid counterproductive bullshit like this?

I can just imagine being backstage in the WWE locker room while shit like this is going on. What would it like to be a Cesaro, who was loving life for years with the Kings of Wrestling, watching himself look like a total ass while the fans resent the company for doing so? What about Adam Rose, who worked hard for many, many years to live out his dream, just to feud with a man in a bunny suit? What about the countless other NXT talents whose careers have been sabotaged to feud this stupid backstage feud between Kevin Dunn and Triple H? No wonder backstage morale is described as "depressing".

"Oh, but they showed up out of shape" Cool story. Does that deserve you destroying them the way you did on their second week? No, assholes! Wanna stall their momentum for that, fine. Go right ahead. "Yeah, but their promo earlier and the squash sucked anyway" Mmmmhmmm, and you're pushing Roman Reigns. "Well, we don't think the Ascension will get over"... come on guys, we got behind Fandango. YOU HAVE NO EXCUSES. STOP DOING THIS SHIT.

True. Plus, it's not like they had a developmental show they could watch to see how the guys looked. I mean, having the guys come out and the announcers bury them two weeks in is... eh. Not even any point in complaining anymore, I'm spent I think.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Oh, I know you didn't say you disliked heel Lawler. Sorry if that seemed implied. I often put too many thoughts in one paragraph.

The disagreement was that Booker was better than face Lawler. I hate Booker on commentary and would take face Lawler over him any day.

It's no big deal, I just thought ir would be amusing to point out.

That's fair, I guess. It's all about a personal preference, at the end of the day.

 

[Leo C]

Booker was a win though

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I enjoyed it.

Liked having the Authority back
Ziggler/WB was very well booked. Great way to get the title off of DZ.
Reigns was good
Good ambulance match
The ending was pretty funny

not bad.

 

[Snowman1]

Well, he lost. Granted, I know it wasn't clean, but still. Haven't we seen Dolph lay down enough? If they were going for a big push he could start maybe winning or something.

I'd love to sit here and say "The wins are coming for Dolph, this sets up the future and the bigger picture so nicely!" but you're right, lets just not get sucked into this trap again.

 

[Prince Bálor]

I'd love to sit here and say "The wins are coming for Dolph, this sets up the future and the bigger picture so nicely!" but you're right, lets just not get sucked into this trap again.

Yes, let's not jinx it again.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I'd love to sit here and say "The wins are coming for Dolph, this sets up the future and the bigger picture so nicely!" but you're right, lets just not get sucked into this trap again.

Ziggler vs HHH needs to happen eventually.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Ziggler vs HHH needs to happen eventually.

Can't argue with that.

Both Ziggler and Reigns (if he doesn't headline WM 31) need HHH to put 'em over. Would be nice.

 

[Snowman1]

Ziggler vs HHH needs to happen eventually.

In a perfect world, absolutely. Isn't it the perfect blowoff to the Authority at this point? They put Ziggler over like a million bucks at Survivor Series and rocketshipped his ass, and while so far they've dropped the ball with it, it's far from dead. All I thought at the end was how great it would be to see Ziggler fight back against the Authority and...

I'm just getting flashbacks to 2013 when the Authority started. They beat down Bryan, and Bryan kicked Hunter in the head at Wrestlemania and won the title. They jerked around the Big Show, and Show eventually knocked him out. They fired the Rhodes Brothers, and they fought back and got their jobs back against the Shield. They beat up Ziggler every week, and..........

You know what? I wish I could get tickets to the Rumble so I could just cheer "LETS GO ZIGGLER" to the top of my lungs, since I'm just tired of them starting and stopping with this mf. Enough of this shit, these fans should totally do the same as they did with Daniel Bryan.last year after his Survivor Series moment and make damn sure they don't drop the ball again and make this entire stupid angle all about Cena for no reason. Wanna do Sting vs Triple H? Fine, Ziggler wins the Rumble and faces Brock. Fuck a 6 man tag, fuck the Andre battle royal, fuck a match with Bray Wyatt, Ziggler MUST have a quality WM match this year.

 

[CFCrusader]

troll/10 - Basically a chance for The Authority to troll everyone, not really that good and Big E vs Adam Rose main evented. :heyman:

As for Ziggler vs Triple H, I want for that to happen but then again, Sting vs Triple H also makes sense. I could see Sting vs Wyatt or Sting vs Undertaker happening, but what about Sting and Ziggler vs Triple H and Rollins? I mean, Sting's WM debut should be a singles match but I wouldn't mind this, especially if I get to see Sting and Ziggler in the same ring together; probably won't happen, in which case let Sting lead Ziggler, Rowan and Ryback into RAW and they rebel against The Authority after being fired. Sting comes out of nowhere with every heel against him, and Ziggler, Rowan and Ryback come from behind. :blackshock: