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Well Becky & Naomi lost...but every male (& open minded female)
fan won thanks to Becky's outfit...
:aww:
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fan won thanks to Becky's outfit...
:aww:
Didn't even care about that tbh. For some reason multi -woman matches never grab me. It's like they wanted to get them all on the card but not give them time.
I had exactly 0 expectations going into this PPV besides the main event, because AJ was in it and I have to say, given that I didn't expect much I thought it was pretty decent for a filler event
- Rusev vs Nakamura wasn't anything special but I don't see the point in having this match as a whole but whatever, it's good to keep Nakamura on PPVs while he's basically, in kayfabe, Smackdown's #2 guy. Also really thankful that he ditched the disco pants and went back to normal fitting ones, I hope he goes for the same style at Mania. Not too much, but also different than usually.
- Orton winning the US title is cool I guess, never got to see him with the title but I don't know how this is gonna change a whole lot. The title is pretty much dead at this point and the last person that made it mean something was John Cena in 2015. But, what many people often disregard, is Orton's popularity. Because despite the overall negative reaction he gets off of the internet, he usually gets pretty big and positive reactions wherever he goes. When he won the title last night off of that RKO, they probably had one of their biggest pops of the night right there. So on one hand I get why people are frustrated with Orton but then again.. he's kinda over lol.
- Natalya/Carmella vs Naomi/Becky was a nothing match that was just booked so they can say "look we have 2 womens matches on this card". But given the fact that none of them have a real feud nor reason to fight each other, it's just a waste of time as harsh as it sounds. I mean, what did the winners of this match accomplish? Carmella shouldn't even have to bother to wrestle while holding the briefcase because she could have her title match at any given time anyways and Natalya will always be Natalya, whether she wins a pointless tag match or not. Naomi and Becky are basically background characters for Charlotte now, so letting them have a win wouldn't effect anything on the title picture either, at least for now. It's just an endless cycle of not mattering until you maybe get a title shot and then you matter enough to get a feud.
- Usos vs New Day was just an angle as it turned out, which is fine.. but they kinda promised a revised classic from their prior feud. We all kinda knew that Harper and Rowan were coming for those titles soon but I kinda expected them to get involved after a real banger to get people hoping for more. So I guess we're gonna get a triple threat at Mania, which I'm not against at all. It's just that this was nothing interesting to talk about for now.
- Charlotte vs Ruby was ok, but I still think Charlotte shouldn't drop a moonsault during every PPV match she has. I think she thinks it might help the match but in reality it just makes the moonsaults less special in my eyes. If she'd only keep it for hot feuds like the one she's in with Asuka now, I'd get it but blowing big spots for matches with Ruby and Natalya who have no heat on them whatsoever, is kind of a waste.
- But anyways, let's be real, this isn't about the match itself, it's all about what happened afterwards and let me just say I'm very happy about this match happening. It's definitely gonna be an interesting mix of styles given that Charlotte is a typical WWE wrestler and Asuka definitely more of an outsider to that tradition. But I'd almost compare it to a Reigns/Nakamura and I think that'd deliver pretty well as seen during their encounter during the Rumble. Sometimes it's even better to have a big WWE wrestler go up against an indie guy rather than having 2 indie guys in there.. just mashes up better most of the time. To get back on topic tho, all I'm gonna say is, WWE's really lucky in the sense of that the Rumble winner can choose which champion he wants to face, so in kayfabe it makes total sense to have Asuka randomly walk over to Smackdown, even though the real reasoning behind it was to have a big match for Charlotte even though the entire Smackdown women's division is kinda trash at the moment so they had to bring someone over from Raw. Generally speaking, Raw has way more going on with the women, even without Asuka, they had Bayley/Sasha and Bliss/Nia already planted, while Smackdown had Charlotte as a single act and not even that seemed all that exciting to be honest. So I hope they get back on the right track with Asuka on board.
- the main event delivered, as expected. I really enjoyed the dynamic between all of them. Styles winning was predictable but in an obviously good way and I actually really like the way Cena's playing his role of disappointed guy who's not gonna be at Mania. Even the little things like pushing the camera away from his face while Styles was celebrating felt real to me, even though I know he's definitely gonna be at Mania, he's just been playing it so well over the past couple of weeks and it's a realistic story for him going into the show. The whole Shane thing is kinda getting old and I don't know where it's leading towards. I mean, they already had a HIAC match with all of them involved, how much can you do? The only way for them to drop this angle is to have Shane off of TV or Owens/Zayn go over to Raw again but we can't keep going with this until they retire lol. After all, this feud between Owens and Shane has been going on ever since Owens went over to Smackdown, so it's almost been a year ffs. Anyways, match was cool, result makes sense, everybody's happy.. except for maybe Kevin and Sami
This show was pretty good. It had some really good wrestling and no major booking mistakes.
- Nakamura v Rusev was decent. Don't understand why they booked this match in the first place Bit of a nothing match to be honest.
- I'm a Randy Orton fan so I have no problem in him winning the US title. Its not like Roode was on a roll. Roode has done nothing to interest me since being called up to the main roster. Roode needs to get a character quick cuz he is boring. Hes more boring then Orton, How is that even possible? What happened after the match was bullshit, the epitome of 50/50 booking. The guy who lost the title leaves with hes head held high. Utter bullshit.
- Naomi and Becky v Carmella and Natalya. FILLER. Who cares about any of these woman? Smackdown womans division is terrible.
-New Day v Usos. Yeah this match was really cool and booked very well. Bludgeon Brothers coming out demolishing the two teams was very cool. I hope these guys get the ladder match at mania.
- Charlotte v Ruby Riott. No complaints with the match. It was a little bit sloppy here and there. It was a decent match.I have no idea why Asuka has chosen Charlotte over Alexa. Plz explain WWE.
- The main event was great. Despite being very predictable is was executed very well. Lots of fun spots happened throughout the match. Loved the ending of AJ standing tall, with Cena looking devastated. Cena is one of the best things in WWE right now for me.
I would give the show 7/10.They didn't do anything stupid and the main event was very good.
So after Fastlane it looks like we are getting the following smack down matches at Mania.
AJ v Nakamura
Cena v Undertaker
Orton v Mahal v Roode
Charlotte v Asuka
Usos v New Day v Bludgeon Bros
Shane v KO and Sami or Shane v KO v Sami
Seems ok....
- Nakamura v Rusev was decent. Don't understand why they booked this match in the first place Bit of a nothing match to be honest.
- I'm a Randy Orton fan so I have no problem in him winning the US title. Its not like Roode was on a roll. Roode has done nothing to interest me since being called up to the main roster. Roode needs to get a character quick cuz he is boring. Hes more boring then Orton, How is that even possible? What happened after the match was bullshit, the epitome of 50/50 booking. The guy who lost the title leaves with hes head held high. Utter bullshit.
- Naomi and Becky v Carmella and Natalya. FILLER. Who cares about any of these woman? Smackdown womans division is terrible.
-New Day v Usos. Yeah this match was really cool and booked very well. Bludgeon Brothers coming out demolishing the two teams was very cool. I hope these guys get the ladder match at mania.
- Charlotte v Ruby Riott. No complaints with the match. It was a little bit sloppy here and there. It was a decent match.I have no idea why Asuka has chosen Charlotte over Alexa. Plz explain WWE.
- The main event was great. Despite being very predictable is was executed very well. Lots of fun spots happened throughout the match. Loved the ending of AJ standing tall, with Cena looking devastated. Cena is one of the best things in WWE right now for me.
I would give the show 7/10.They didn't do anything stupid and the main event was very good.
So after Fastlane it looks like we are getting the following smack down matches at Mania.
AJ v Nakamura
Cena v Undertaker
Orton v Mahal v Roode
Charlotte v Asuka
Usos v New Day v Bludgeon Bros
Shane v KO and Sami or Shane v KO v Sami
Seems ok....
Nakamura and Rusev ended up putting on a pretty good match. I know that this was just a filler feud for Nakamura, but I wish there would have been more of build to it. Why did they wait until the last minute to book this match when they were doing literally nothing with these two guys since RR. I feel like a better build would have given this match a little something extra. I really hope they do something with Rusev. He is super over right now, so at least him and Aiden in the triple threat tag match that is bound to happen at Mania so he is not stuck in the battle royal.
I'm not against putting the title on Orton, and the whole angle was clearly to extend the feud between him, Roode, and Mahal into Mania, however, I would have preferred to have a longer reign for Roode. Hopefully, this will give us some positives like a possible Roode heel turn (his gimmick just works better as a heel), a much-needed spark from Orton, and some relevance to the US title picture.
The women's tag match felt like nothing more than a match on SD. What's to be expected with no real reason for the match and little build. Additionally, there was little benefit to this match besides filling time on the PPV. Naomi and Becky are really doing anything, and a win would be much needed in order to put them back in the title picture. Becky hasn't won anything major in a long time, so another loss would only have hurt her even more. Carmella shouldn't be losing since she is likely a future champion. So I guess the right team won.
This was turning into a really good match, and I enjoyed the post-match beat down, but I wish they would have allowed the match to finish. I would have rather the no finish on the US match and had this match go to a finish only for the Blugeon Brothers to attack post-match. Either way, the tag match should be good going forward.
This was nothing but a filler for Charlotte and the result was pretty much known beforehand. The most important part of this was the post-match with Asuka. I am excited about this match and it was the best option for a Mania match for Asuka in my opinion. Asuka is all about the challenge of beating others. Maybe she wants a new challenge since she has run through every one worthy on Raw and want to switch to Smackdown so she has a new set of women to work with. Since she is the biggest star in the Women's division on Raw, Angle likely wouldn't trade her so she is using her title opportunity as a way to get what she wants. This is one kayfabe reason for the choice.
The six pack challenge was pretty good, with a ton of chaos as expected. Each of the people played their parts well and the right person won. I especially like the way Cena has been portrayed lately. Although no one is doubting that Cena will have a match at Mania, he is playing the down-on-himself role pretty well. The only part I didn't like the Shane stuff. I don't mind the Shane - Owens/Sami feud, but they haven't really built it any. It seemed to peak when the faced in Hell in a Cell and then they have kind of gone downhill since.
Overall this PPV was pretty good for the filler PPV that it was. I would give it a 6/10
I'm not against putting the title on Orton, and the whole angle was clearly to extend the feud between him, Roode, and Mahal into Mania, however, I would have preferred to have a longer reign for Roode. Hopefully, this will give us some positives like a possible Roode heel turn (his gimmick just works better as a heel), a much-needed spark from Orton, and some relevance to the US title picture.
The women's tag match felt like nothing more than a match on SD. What's to be expected with no real reason for the match and little build. Additionally, there was little benefit to this match besides filling time on the PPV. Naomi and Becky are really doing anything, and a win would be much needed in order to put them back in the title picture. Becky hasn't won anything major in a long time, so another loss would only have hurt her even more. Carmella shouldn't be losing since she is likely a future champion. So I guess the right team won.
This was turning into a really good match, and I enjoyed the post-match beat down, but I wish they would have allowed the match to finish. I would have rather the no finish on the US match and had this match go to a finish only for the Blugeon Brothers to attack post-match. Either way, the tag match should be good going forward.
This was nothing but a filler for Charlotte and the result was pretty much known beforehand. The most important part of this was the post-match with Asuka. I am excited about this match and it was the best option for a Mania match for Asuka in my opinion. Asuka is all about the challenge of beating others. Maybe she wants a new challenge since she has run through every one worthy on Raw and want to switch to Smackdown so she has a new set of women to work with. Since she is the biggest star in the Women's division on Raw, Angle likely wouldn't trade her so she is using her title opportunity as a way to get what she wants. This is one kayfabe reason for the choice.
The six pack challenge was pretty good, with a ton of chaos as expected. Each of the people played their parts well and the right person won. I especially like the way Cena has been portrayed lately. Although no one is doubting that Cena will have a match at Mania, he is playing the down-on-himself role pretty well. The only part I didn't like the Shane stuff. I don't mind the Shane - Owens/Sami feud, but they haven't really built it any. It seemed to peak when the faced in Hell in a Cell and then they have kind of gone downhill since.
Overall this PPV was pretty good for the filler PPV that it was. I would give it a 6/10
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The only matches I had any vested interest in were Roode vs. Orton and the main event. Orton's one of my favorites, and I like the story idea of him winning the US title, just not how WWE booked it. Frankly it feels rushed and would've been better off being put on hold for a greater reaction at WrestleMania. Jinder Mahal getting involved after the match is just...no. Keep that guy away from Orton for the rest of time, please. I was satisfied enough by their last matches, please, please, please don't make Orton face him again. The match itself was very uneventful, which surprised me since what few matches I've seen of Bobby Roode made him seem pretty good. They looked awkward together and couldn't mash well at all, as the crowd's "reaction" to the match proves. Roode feels dead in the water.
The main event was great. The drama was strong, especially with how they used Shane. I'm tired of seeing the guy, but this was well done. I don't have much to say other than that. 2/10 show that'd be a 0/10 without the main event. It felt less like a PPV and more like an episode of Smackdown.
The main event was great. The drama was strong, especially with how they used Shane. I'm tired of seeing the guy, but this was well done. I don't have much to say other than that. 2/10 show that'd be a 0/10 without the main event. It felt less like a PPV and more like an episode of Smackdown.
That's much better than a triple threat featuring Roode and Jinder. I'd rather go with a guaranteed decent match than that mess. There's also a certain appeal to me in seeing Cena vs. Orton one on one at WrestleMania since they haven't faced off one on one at the Showcase of the Immortals before.
The show itself was not bad, but it was a filler PPV that didn't have much change on the Wrestlemania build so far (only like 1 thing really happened that's important, but you can get that on raw/sd)You won't miss much if you skip honestly.
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Here's a theory. So Asuka is in Smackdown now, and I'm sorry, Carmella is NOT beating Asuka. What if at Wrestlemania, Carmella cashes in and wins the Raw Women's Championship? That could be a good swerve
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Well Asuka isn't on SmackDown just yet...
And I've been suggesting Carmella cash in on Bliss since Summerslam.
I'm hopeful they do that at Mania & not
have her ruin Charlotte vs. Asuka.
Considering how low the expectations were going into this PPV, it actually turned out to be just fine of a show so at the end of the day, at least it wasn't a waste of our time. Most of you guys already covered pretty much everything so just a couple of quick notes:
- The harder they (WWE) try, the more over Rusev Day will be so the sooner they realize that, the better. Considering the tag team division on Smackdown is loaded at the moment and with what appears to be a monster triple threat on the horizon for Wrestlemania, I can understand why perhaps they are holding these guys back but it's not like there ain't no solution. Last I checked, the Bar on RAW don't have any opponents so here's a simple solution: Bar issue an open challenge to anyone, Rusev Day answers. Need be, they could present this as part of a trade between RAW and SD, considering Asuka challenged Charlotte so...there.
- Randy Orton is your new US champion; should have figured this one out the moment they brought up the fact it was the only title he hadn't won yet. Anyway, congrats to Randy for the grand slam, otherwise this potential triple threat for Mania really doesn't do much for me...
- This rumor about KO and Zayn being inserted in the ATGMBR is absolute horseshit (how some dirt sheet whatever websites come up with such nonsense just baffles me) and WWE I feel made that very clear as the PPV went off the air.
- As everyone and their mother already figured out, Asuka indeed challenged Charlotte so we know it will be Bliss and Jax on the RAW side of things. Now, one of the hot topics is whether Carmella cashes in at Mania and in which match. If indeed Bliss vs. Jax is made official and we have these two single matches for the respective titles, I for one consider it a lock that both will change hands. In other words, Asuka beats Charlotte and stays undefeated and a face Nia Jax defeats Alexa Bliss to get her moment at Mania. So, if I'm Carmella how can I even contemplate on cashing in when I have to choose between the unstoppable Asuka or the force named Nia Jax? Doesn't really make sense, does it cause both these ladies - as much as I like Carmella - are out of her league. The way I see it, this can only go two ways: either a failed cash in attempt during the Charlotte vs. Asuka match when both ladies are down at some point after a brutal back and forth between them (sort of recreating the Lesnar/Reigns/Rollins situation if you will) or if Alexa steals one over Nia (perhaps cheating), a cash in on her post match.
- The harder they (WWE) try, the more over Rusev Day will be so the sooner they realize that, the better. Considering the tag team division on Smackdown is loaded at the moment and with what appears to be a monster triple threat on the horizon for Wrestlemania, I can understand why perhaps they are holding these guys back but it's not like there ain't no solution. Last I checked, the Bar on RAW don't have any opponents so here's a simple solution: Bar issue an open challenge to anyone, Rusev Day answers. Need be, they could present this as part of a trade between RAW and SD, considering Asuka challenged Charlotte so...there.
- Randy Orton is your new US champion; should have figured this one out the moment they brought up the fact it was the only title he hadn't won yet. Anyway, congrats to Randy for the grand slam, otherwise this potential triple threat for Mania really doesn't do much for me...
- This rumor about KO and Zayn being inserted in the ATGMBR is absolute horseshit (how some dirt sheet whatever websites come up with such nonsense just baffles me) and WWE I feel made that very clear as the PPV went off the air.
- As everyone and their mother already figured out, Asuka indeed challenged Charlotte so we know it will be Bliss and Jax on the RAW side of things. Now, one of the hot topics is whether Carmella cashes in at Mania and in which match. If indeed Bliss vs. Jax is made official and we have these two single matches for the respective titles, I for one consider it a lock that both will change hands. In other words, Asuka beats Charlotte and stays undefeated and a face Nia Jax defeats Alexa Bliss to get her moment at Mania. So, if I'm Carmella how can I even contemplate on cashing in when I have to choose between the unstoppable Asuka or the force named Nia Jax? Doesn't really make sense, does it cause both these ladies - as much as I like Carmella - are out of her league. The way I see it, this can only go two ways: either a failed cash in attempt during the Charlotte vs. Asuka match when both ladies are down at some point after a brutal back and forth between them (sort of recreating the Lesnar/Reigns/Rollins situation if you will) or if Alexa steals one over Nia (perhaps cheating), a cash in on her post match.
Solid PPV imo.
Only matches that really disappointed were the Tag Title match and the Women's title match. The Tag Title match just didn't work for me as I felt like the interference despite being pretty epic took away the momentum. An I just didn't feel that Charlotte and Riot fully clicked in ring.
Felt like they dealt with the ME well. Considering it was 6-man, you obviously don't expect all the wrestlers going at it at once and I felt like they managed the situation well, with everyone getting fairly equal opportunity to be involved. Maybe pushed the Cena storyline a bit more than most, but with him hunting for that elusive and record-breaking 17th World Title win I can let that slide.
Only matches that really disappointed were the Tag Title match and the Women's title match. The Tag Title match just didn't work for me as I felt like the interference despite being pretty epic took away the momentum. An I just didn't feel that Charlotte and Riot fully clicked in ring.
Felt like they dealt with the ME well. Considering it was 6-man, you obviously don't expect all the wrestlers going at it at once and I felt like they managed the situation well, with everyone getting fairly equal opportunity to be involved. Maybe pushed the Cena storyline a bit more than most, but with him hunting for that elusive and record-breaking 17th World Title win I can let that slide.
