Putting Over

[The Rated R CMStar]

THis thread is to talk about why to some wrestlers that get to some age it is so difficult and sometimes impossible to put someone over. You always here about already acomplished wrestlers not wanting to put over young wrestlers. Here is a list of some wrestlers that have refused to put over younger stars:

Triple H: He have only put over Batista, and that was because he is his friend. Who won the Orton-HHH feud? Who won the Jeff Hardy-HHH minifeud? And yes Cena defeated him, but that was only because that was all to lead to the DX reformation.

Hulk Hogan: Do I really have to explain it?

Sting: He seems invincible. He never puts over anyone in TNA. Did Abyss got anything of their feud? Has Daniels gotten anything of their feud? NO, and that is because Sting defeated them both all the time.

Please post your opinions and more examples

 

[Italian Outsider]

well i can agree completely only on Hogan..

on trips: he put over Randy Orton, doesn't matter he won the feud, the move was smart because Orton was still very young, a long title reign of a very young wrestler sucks; he put over Benoit, yes that s.o.b., not because Benoit couldn't do good matches by himself, but HHH made his title reign good, gave him a chance on the mic and helped putting on great matches;
he put on Shawn Michaels when he returned in the ring in 2002 don't forget that awesome feud... and why not,still in 2002 HHH gave a chance to Flair to make something in WWE being is sidekick

on Sting: well for what i know, Sting wanted to lose clearly the title to Abyss, the managment didn't want so...for the rest i don't know so much of him to give a real opinion

 

[ROHisWrestling]

I agree with you about Sting, his time is over and he should be helping out the younger talent right now....

 

[Nancy Di Loreto]

I have a feeling Sting wants to put over the future stars, but Russo has always been reluctant to let the older guys lose since his WCW days...

 

[Great One]

Are you kidding? Triple H ALWAYS puts over younger guys. I like how you didn't include Shelton Benjamin, and who the fuck cares about Jeff Hardy, look where he is now, he's a nobody and never would be at the time they had a feud Triple H wasn't suppose to put over younger stars, I guess you did not know this, but when a wrestler is in their prime why would they have to put over somebody, especially Jeff Hardy. And it wasn't Triple H's fault Orton was buried, it was WWE's poor and stupid ass booking that did it, he could of been REALLY big coming off the Evolution angle but they dropped the ball with him and picked it back up with Batista. Look what happened with the Taker vs. Orton feud where Taker buried him much worse than Triple H, but I don't see you saying how Taker doesn't put over young guys. Oh, and Triple H only put over Cena because of the DX reformation... rofl, BULLSHIT, you definitely are trying to evade this when DX is not even relevant at all. The DX reformation was a way to get Triple H OUT of the feud AFTER he put him over, not a reason that he did it. Triple H tapped out to John Cena on the biggest stage of them all at the main event (like HBK) and put him over like he should, when everyone thought he was leaving with the title, period.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

For a moment I was, but then I thouhg that Taker's last feuds, even if he won the last matches, everyone got a lot from them. Look at Mr. Kennedy, he grew completely from their feud, Orton got a lot, he was buried after that feud with that stupid bashing Eddie feud with Rey, and even Khali, he made Undertaker dissappear for two months.

And Triple H didn't put Shelton over. Just because Shelton defeated him one or two times it doesn't mean you are being put over. And when he had his mini feud with Hardy he wasn't in his prime. He was in that sloppy feud as the partner of Stone Cold, he was in an inpass.

 

[Great One]

Trust me... Orton was buried A LOT from the Taker feud. And Triple H has yet to feud with Kennedy, I'm pretty positive he'll put him over big time.

You can put someone over from one match if there debut match they beat the world heavyweight champion. It's not a complete put over, but you can run with it and that's what they should of done, but management buried Shelton, once again not Triple H's fault. Ok... but he was in his fucking early 30's! Why would he put someone over? That makes no sense.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

You have some great points, but why the hell the Intercontinental Title would do anything to Triple H, so it made no sense he beating Jeff winning the title just so they could pull out that tag match between HHH, Stone Cold vs B.O.D.

And maybe Orton was buried, but for a moment he took advantage, as he was the man that "killed" the Undertaker. What I am saying is that Taker have put over guys, but WWE doesnt follows the story. Mr. Kennedy, The Great Khali and Orton won a lot of their feuds at the moment, but WWE did nothing for them and then they got buried.

And if HHH puts Kennedy over, it would be like he putting over Batista, they are friends. Triple H is Kennedy`s friend. Why does not Triple puts over someone like MVP, because they are not friends. HHH just put over his friends

 

[Great One]

We were just talking about this relating to the TNA storyline. But we came to the decision that it was a good move because it was all for putting over the Power Trip as the most dominate team in the WWE, so they gave them all the titles to further the 'tag team' (or stable). Unfortunately, it had to be ended sooner than expected due to the injury that put Triple H out for 8 months, but yeah. That's why Triple H took the title from Jeff hardy, the WWE BOOKED the Power Trip to be dominant, not Triple H felt like having another title (he wasn't even in any very high position of power at this point like he is now).

What... how do you know Kennedy and Triple H are friends, I've never seen this report ever. Kennedy said Stone Cold was and is his role model that's it, no mention of Triple H. I'm sure Triple H will put over CM Punk and MVP down the road as well.

 

[The Rated R CMStar]

It was reported that Triple H was behind Kennedy coming to Raw. Triple H pushed that Kennedy went to Raw supposedly because it was his friend, because he saw potential in him and wanted a big heel. So he and Kennedy have a relationship similar to the one with Stone Cold.

And in fact Triple H WAS already in a power position, maybe not as strong as today, but he was in The Clique and he remained to have influence backstage til our days

 

[Great One]

Haha, no the report only said he went pushed for him to go to RAW, that's it, NO mention of them 'being friends'.

Not enough power to demand titles or pick who and who he will not put over.

Also, I'd like to add something to this thread. You missed 3 of the biggest names Triple H put over, yes put over, during the Attitude Era. And that is The Rock, Austin, and Mick Foley. If It wasn't for Triple H none of these guys would have been as over as they were during the Attitude Era. He is arguably the best heel of all time and managed to push all of them along with himself at the same time. Many more names can be added to hat list, such as Kane, and of course all 3 members of DX (new).

 

[Choose Slack]

I really disagree with you saying Trips never put anyone over. He's put over Batista, Cena, Shelton Benjamin, and some others.


I'd have to say that with the exception of Kennedy, Undertaker hasn't really put anyone over at all.

 

[Nancy Di Loreto]

'Taker is literally BURIES any wrestler brave enough to feud with him. Ever since he started the Biker/Bad Ass gimmick, he has had a shit load of control behind the scenes...

 

[Choose Slack]

'Taker is literally BURIES any wrestler brave enough to feud with him. Ever since he started the Biker/Bad Ass gimmick, he has had a shit load of control behind the scenes...

I'm so glad someone finally agrees with me on this. For years I've been saying that, but everyone always points out how Taker somehow magically put over Brock Lesnar, Jeff Hardy and Maven which is all pure rubbish.

Then they'll go on and on and on about how 'Taker isn't supposed to job, it's his gimmick', and I'm like, 'Bull'.