Punk v Taker - A real possibility?

[Rysenberg]

How? That makes no sense. Of course they can be taken seriously, they're taken seriously now despite the overreaction of them being a comedy team. They have comedic segments, so did E&C, arguably the greatest tag-team ever, are they not a serious team? Comedy joke wrestlers are the Santino's, Doink The Clowns, Ryder's, etc. These two are certainly not that.

Kane and DB are booked as the dominant tag-team who hate each other but show compassion at the right times to keep their titles, and then go back to hating each other. It's fantastic booking, it's why it's such a success both with casuals and with the IWC. Brock being introduced would just make it twenty times better. It'd be the feud of the year I swear.

Yeah but the E&C team still wouldn't look like a threat to him, they were seen as good competitors yeah, but never that high a standard. At the moment if you were to put both Bryan and Kane up against Brock Lesnar in a handicap match it would look completely real for Brock to come out the winner, so I don't see how Bryan is going to change enough in 6 months to seem like a proper challenge on his own.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Would prefer to debate with R'Albin since he can actually argue with points.

There are no 'points' to this debate- it is all opinion and hypothetical situations. DB vs Brock isn't happening so it's all pointless.

I'm on my way out the door, but if you really believe what you are typing I'll be glad to educate you when I get home

 

[Crayo]

Yeah but the E&C team still wouldn't look like a threat to him, they were seen as good competitors yeah, but never that high a standard. At the moment if you were to put both Bryan and Kane up against Brock Lesnar in a handicap match it would look completely real for Brock to come out the winner, so I don't see how Bryan is going to change enough in 6 months to seem like a proper challenge on his own.

Booking, that's how. How did Brock suddenly look so tough so soon in his career? Booking. Book Bryan as the tough small underdog, it would take like 2 months to stick, then the rest is feud build. It'd work so well.

There are no 'points' to this debate- it is all opinion and hypothetical situations. DB vs Brock isn't happening so it's all pointless.

Welcome to a wrestling forum. We've debated much unlikelier situations than this, lol.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Crayo gets mad at me for not making "points" and then his "point" is "it'd work so well!"

my rebuttal "It wouldn't work well enough for DB to ever be viewed as a legitimate threat to Lesnar"

Crayo "dude make points or gtfo."

 

[Crayo]

Keep this thread on-topic please.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

On topic? The topic reads "Punk vs Taker" lmao

we've been off topic for two pages now

 

[Crayo]

Oh shit yeah, thought this was the Wrestlemania 29 discussion thread for some reason -.-. At least it's a wrestling related off-topic for once.

 

[Rysenberg]

Booking, that's how. How did Brock suddenly look so tough so soon in his career? Booking. Book Bryan as the tough small underdog, it would take like 2 months to stick, then the rest is feud build. It'd work so well.

Yeah but it was always gonna be easy for Brock to instantly become a star due to his look - it's easy for guys that size to become stars, just look at Ryback.

Plus, look at Brock's debut:



Now look at Bryan currently:



No chance for me, at all.

 

[Rysenberg]

Oh shit yeah, thought this was the Wrestlemania 29 discussion thread for some reason -.-. At least it's a wrestling related off-topic for once.

These dirtsheet speculation threads usually end up being pretty short anyway.

 

[Crayo]

All you've done there is compare booking. Booking can fix Bryan easily as there's not much to fix. He already has an aggressive side, he has a partner who he's competitive with but cares for deep down, if you reduce the no's and "I'm the tag-team champions" and take the storyline into preparing Bryan for someone like Brock, it could work out so well. At first he can be cocky like he is now, but he slowly realises what animal he's up against, and you put him in the as the tweener underdog who let's face it everyone is going to want to win. The crowd will be SO into it. The match will be fantastic.

Comparing their current characters would fail. Rock/Cena promos were decent last year because Cena changed, if it was soppy Cena it would have failed so hard, but he went from soppy to edgy and then the promos were actually good. Punk for example, horrible reign as face (but people way overreact) and one heel turn has made him the hottest product in wrestling again. Little fixes make drastic changes, in my opinion ofc.

 

[Rysenberg]

All you've done there is compare booking. Booking can fix Bryan easily as there's not much to fix. He already has an aggressive side, he has a partner who he's competitive with but cares for deep down, if you reduce the no's and "I'm the tag-team champions" and take the storyline into preparing Bryan for someone like Brock, it could work out so well. At first he can be cocky like he is now, but he slowly realises what animal he's up against, and you put him in the as the tweener underdog who let's face it everyone is going to want to win. The crowd will be SO into it. The match will be fantastic.

Comparing their current characters would fail. Rock/Cena promos were decent last year because Cena changed, if it was soppy Cena it would have failed so hard, but he went from soppy to edgy and then the promos were actually good. Punk for example, horrible reign as face (but people way overreact) and one heel turn has made him the hottest product in wrestling again. Little fixes make drastic changes, in my opinion ofc.

You were using Brock's push as an example of how Bryan could be pushed in 6 months, the videos were in retort to that.

I'm not saying it could never happen, the Brock/Bryan story would be absolutely insane if done just like you said it would be. However he can't just change like Cena did, Cena's beaten pretty much the entire roster and is the most credible active star by a country mile, so changing him wasn't exactly hard. He still kept up some of the soppy crap as well, just see his promo last year when he was on about him being himself or some shit in Chicago, it was embarrassing. Punk, again, booked like an absolute monster for months, so turning him heel he was always gonna be instantly credible.

Bryan at the moment is a just a crazy guy running about shouting no, with the crowd ripping the piss out of him and treating him as a joke. Changing him into a badass, aggressive tweener in such little time isn't exactly a subtle change.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. Can the Bryan/Brock story work next year? Hell yeah. This year? Not a prayer IMHO.

 

[Swift]

Brock/Bryan would be amazing.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

R'Albin- 5
Crayo- 0

 

[Rysenberg]

R'Albin- 5
Crayo- 0

:yay:

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I love when the title in the 'last post' column cuts off to say something funny

"Punk v Taker- A Real pos"