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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Ziggler never botches. We've discussed this :facepalm1:

Punk is the loser that constantly botches

UH FIGGER BOTCH ALL THE TIME!
 

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Respect Gohan6425 said:
UH FIGGER BOTCH ALL THE TIME!

Give us ten examples of Ziggler botching, with video proof.
 

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Crayo said:
Really? If you were to group a load of smarks together, drawing money would have an input on where you rank certain stars? We're talking about them from a wrestling aspect, not from a business aspect. I couldn't care less if Eddie Guerrero was the biggest draw in history, or one of the worst in history, but I know he'd be on my list of best wrestlers of all time.

If you want the complete package how can you ignore it? If you're saying some guy is the complete package it's someone you'd sign in a heartbeat to build a federation around. Once again why are Hogan, Rock and Austin considered the three GOATS if it isn't for drawing money? Everyone has those 3 on top, hell we even did in D'Z's poll.

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Savage, Flair did not draws!? WTF ARE U SMOKING!?

They didn't Flair possibly in the NWA days as it was a heel promotion but can you say they ever were draws as in millions came to see them? I can't justify that even Andre had a better drawing record in the territories than Flair,
 

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Crayo said:
Mad because Randy is making you mad. Randy, the greatest flaming troll on WF.

Randy vs Aids, IWT, book it.

NEVER GOING TO HAVE BEEN! I going the IWT WORLD TITLE!
 

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We've gone down this road. He had like 1/2 of a botch and 10 other vids of hiim not botching at all.
 

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seabs said:
If you want the complete package how can you ignore it? If you're saying some guy is the complete package it's someone you'd sign in a heartbeat to build a federation around. Once again why are Hogan, Rock and Austin considered the three GOATS if it isn't for drawing money? Everyone has those 3 on top, hell we even did in D'Z's poll.

They're completely different lists imo. Punk calls himself the BITW because of his wrestling ability. Sometimes people simply can not get to that mainstream level for whatever reason, but I'm talking about wrestling talents specifically. Punk wouldn't go near the GOAT list, and rightly so, but he is up there in the current BITW list imo.
 

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seabs said:
If you want the complete package how can you ignore it? If you're saying some guy is the complete package it's someone you'd sign in a heartbeat to build a federation around. Once again why are Hogan, Rock and Austin considered the three GOATS if it isn't for drawing money? Everyone has those 3 on top, hell we even did in D'Z's poll.

They didn't Flair possibly in the NWA days as it was a heel promotion but can you say they ever were draws as in millions came to see them? I can't justify that even Andre had a better drawing record in the territories than Flair,

Flair did draw in WWF! I don't know what taking about!?
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
We've gone down this road. He had like 1/2 of a botch and 10 other vids of hiim not botching at all.

FIGGER BOTCH ALL THE TIME!
 

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Respect Gohan6425 said:
FIGGER BOTCH ALL THE TIME!

Fact. no he does not.

Punk botches a lot more than Ziggler and even CM Punk fanboy Crayo would tell you so
 

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Crayo said:
They're completely different lists imo. Punk calls himself the BITW because of his wrestling ability. Sometimes people simply can not get to that mainstream level for whatever reason, but I'm talking about wrestling talents specifically. Punk wouldn't go near the GOAT list, and rightly so, but he is up there in the current BITW list imo.

We're not discussing BITW though, we're discussing complete packages.

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Flair did draw in WWF! I don't know what taking about!?

No he didn't, Hulkamania was running wild brother, it's why Flair left in 92 they wouldn't make him the man brother.
 
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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Fact. no he does not.

Punk botches a lot more than Ziggler and even CM Punk fanboy Crayo would tell you so

OH HELL NO! I see figger do the dumb thinks in the ring! Punk does not botch in less his oppeant fuck up!