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So I watched a little over half of the new Austin DVD available at shop.wwe.com:thumbs: And it's occured to me that Austin vs. Punk is a bad move.

The story building it up would almost be utter shit both have talked about how they have respect for the other and that their the greatest of their times. Not to mention that Punk basically is the Austin of this era or at least headed there.

So I would instead have the end at this years Wrestlmania culminate with Rock and Cena earning the respect of each other than next year have The Rock and John Cena vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin and CM Punk.

Now I know WWE has been all Never Before Never Again. Throw in the tagline Never Say Never you play off the stuff this year. The Rock has it Cena...CM Punk has it and Austin will look good with the other 3 "if" he doesn't have it (he does)

The story would make more sense The Rock gets all butt hurt because next year CM starts talking trash about how The Rock blah blah blah (basically what he's doing now) He and Cena feud over it then The Rock comes back not being one to have someone else fight his battle. Austin comes in saying if it right that you two are teaming on punk "uh uh" who wants to see Austin and Punk vs ... "Gimmie a Hell Yeah"


Maybe a pipe dream but my pipe dream seems more plausible and makes more sense to me.


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Are you suggesting that a Wrestlemania ends in a tag match?

First off though, the new Austin DVD has one of the worst match listings ever. I'm not saying the matches are bad but they are pretty much all on other sets. His last set had a better variety of matches.

Second off if Austin was to return to the ring to face Punk. They could easily make it one of the most heated feuds of all-time. I don't think Punk would even want to do a respect storyline considering their contrasting styles and personalities would clash like wildfire. However, I think WWE needs to look past Rock and Austin when it comes to future Wrestlemanias and stop trying to concentrate on bringing back old names. They have some young talent ready to emerge and take the spotlight of the event with the likes of Cena and Orton being the cornerstones.
 

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I don't get your basis as to why it shouldn't happen when Punk respects Cena and vice versa but that feud ended up being one of the best feuds in a while. So that doesn't ruin a thing. And Punk isn't the Austin of this time he is his own guy. They have similarities here and there but the one big difference that pretty much makes this a no brainer feud Austin the notorious beer drinker, Punk the guy who doesn't drink at all. That alone makes for great promo material. Even if say you do say Punk is the Austin of this era that is another feud builder not a restriction.
 
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Austin was Austin and Punk is Punk. I don't agree that Punk is the Austin of this era. Austin was the best at what he did and nobody will ever be as good as him in that respect. As for Punk, he does his own thing and he does it well but comparing him to Austin is far fetched.

I wouldn't mind seeing Punk vs. Austin but I definitely do think that the WWE's writing and booking team needs to get their act together and focus on rebuilding characters. They can't keep relying on past wrestlers for success.
 
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As far as Cena and Orton taking Wrestlemania what have they been during the event for the past 4 or 5 years. Also the WWE has all of 3 guys that could compete with the older Generation Orton Punk and Cena so who are they to face I dont see anyone on the current Roster being at that level for sometime not even by next year so those three need something to do, because having them wrestle for the title at yet another wrestlemania is starting to not only bore me but piss me off.
 

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Punk is a guy that stole the belt and left the company which should have made him a heel but instead it made him a babyface. Austin is a guy that was a heel that had so much heat it became cool to like him very similar in my opinion not to mention that I said on his way there.

Does WWE need more developed talent yes will they get there within a year? I don't see it those Orton Punk and Cena are in a league seperate from the pack and nobody in the pack is really close to joining them.
 

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If the build to Rock VS. Cena wasn't already in high gear then I would say why not to your idea, however it is.

Also I don't see the point in sticking two legends making one off returns in one match, espically not a tag team match. Cena VS. Rock deserves its own spotlight as does Punk VS. Austin if it ever does happen.
 

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You don't think in a few years at least a couple of the Wade Barretts, Sheamus, Del Rios, The Mizs and hell Daniel Bryans(if his current storyline delivers) could be Wrestlemania worthy?

I shouldn't even had to add Miz since he's already been there.
 

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If the build to Rock VS. Cena wasn't already in high gear then I would say why not to your idea, however it is.

Also I don't see the point in sticking two legends making one off returns in one match, espically not a tag team match. Cena VS. Rock deserves its own spotlight as does Punk VS. Austin if it ever does happen.

I think people are getting the wrong Idea I'm saying this Idea for Next year or even Wrestlemania 30 sometime in the future.
 

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You don't think in a few years at least a couple of the Wade Barretts, Sheamus, Del Rios, The Mizs and hell Daniel Bryans(if his current storyline delivers) could be Wrestlemania worthy?

I shouldn't even had to add Miz since he's already been there.



The guys you've named are Main Eventers sure enough but in my opinion Orton Cena Punk are in a seperate category.

Barrett has potential but WWE have already yoyo'd him

Del Rio I believe will end up being a flash in the pan

Sheamus has probably the most potential

The Miz also has potential

DB meh we'll see.
 

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They have their things about them that is the similar obvious however I just dislike the whole this guy is the Austin of this era and so on and so fourth because if you look back the top stars were just them not the next this or that. Also there has never been a time in any era where about 5-6 guys were the faces of the company at the same time it's always been about 2 or 3. I do think they should take more chances on guys to main event the show with the faces of the company.
 

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I'm just saying these guys in the right build up towards Wrestlemania could look like threats to Punk, Cena and Orton.

However for Wrestlemania 30 I want a huge main event so hopefully Daniel Bryan can become a phenomenon but I doubt that.
 
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Punk is a guy that stole the belt and left the company which should have made him a heel but instead it made him a babyface. Austin is a guy that was a heel that had so much heat it became cool to like him very similar in my opinion not to mention that I said on his way there.

Does WWE need more developed talent yes will they get there within a year? I don't see it those Orton Punk and Cena are in a league seperate from the pack and nobody in the pack is really close to joining them.

Well, people grew tired of Cena too which explains why a lot of fans started to root for Punk. Cena has been stale for a very long time which explains why some fans are starting to boo him. That isn't to say Punk isn't good. He is and I like that he was standing up to authority but Austin did it completely differently. Also, Austin was a heel as you said and yes, some fans liked him but he became a face when they turned Bret heel at Mania. He came into a company that had a clear indication of the differentiation between a heel and face yet he managed to change that. Austin was also very interesting because he had the attributes of a heel but the fans loved him. I see what you're stating but I don't think Punk is this generation's Austin. The way he conducts himself is also very different. Austin sounded like a pissed off redneck which I thought was great whereas Punk uses more intellectual phrases when he speaks.
 

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I agree that Punk vs Austin should not happen, but thats purely out of my concern for Austin's neck. And while the match itself wouldn't be very good, the fued itself, its basis, build and mic segments, would be incredible.

You say its wouldn't work because Punk and Austin both respect each other? Cena vs Rock is based on the same thing, both have stated that they respect what the other has done professionally. But the fued grew due to personal issues. Punk could be having some segment with Stone Cold where they confess their respect for one another and one of them manages to let something slip that the other takes personal offense with (Punk's straight edge lifestyle would be the obvious choice). And with the utmost professional respect put aside, the seeds are planted of a personal disgust for one another and the fued kickstarts from there, which is exactly what's happened with Rock and Cena except the latter has been brewing slowly for years.

If there is one point I could argue against the fued from a story perspective though, is that Punk would have to turn heel again for it to work. Even if just temporarily. But imo that would still hurt the continuity of his character.
 

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They have their things about them that is the similar obvious however I just dislike the whole this guy is the Austin of this era and so on and so fourth because if you look back the top stars were just them not the next this or that. Also there has never been a time in any era where about 5-6 guys were the faces of the company at the same time it's always been about 2 or 3. I do think they should take more chances on guys to main event the show with the faces of the company.

I hate that phrasing to but I didn't know how to phrase it otherwise. See with me I think their should be 2 per show maybe that's where I have a hold up with it. But the attitude era had HHH Micheals Foley Rock Austin now not all at the same time but in pretty quick succession seems like we've had Orton Cena for what five years now. If you want to build up other guys like the men listed you have to take Cena Orton Punk out of those matches that they would otherwise be in. You put them in matches with the rock HHH Taker etc just to remove them and help make way for the other guys in the title picture so that they can get to that next level. Causing Punk Orton Cena to be the older generation.