Public debate against this site and Crayo [FRIENDLY DISCUSSION ONLY]

[Crayo]

RE: Rights of Members

Well I made the thread before the milestone one but nice try.

No I didn't, I can see the junk section and I junked it after the milestone thread.

And the difference is you can read my opinions in a locked thread not a deleted one.

Read what? Your opinion on your post count? Your opinion that you have reached a "milestone"? Oh yeah I'm sure me junking that thread buries a really valuable opinion.

Toss the immature line around, thats your go to attack on me, but i have views of this place you disagree with so you put me down every opportunity. Being admin doesnt make you right and censoring my thoughts doesnt make them have any less merit.

I've interacted with you about 4 times since you've signed up, that's it. I don't go looking for your posts, if anything at the moment I try to avoid them unless they're tennis related. All of those interactions included you complaining to me about my moderation style. I said "it's quite immature if you ask me", not "you're quite immature".

If you haven't got the point yet, I don't care enough about your posts to "censor" them. If one of your posts breaks the rules or could lead to something stupid, then I will remove it. That's called moderation.

And i dont need to search for things wrong here, they are blatant to anyone who has no bias like the creator of it would obviously have.

Call me immature, your subtle shots at me dont bother me at all kid.

This is fantastic. Now we can finally have this debate - which we've had a few times via PM - in public and I can actually expose your crap now. Please, list all the things wrong about this forum, I really welcome it. But if you do decide to list the many negatives about this forum, please provide examples.

So far, you're the only user to complain about these things. I welcome this debate more than you can imagine, you know, because I'm a kid etc.

P.S: Anyone who is on my side here isn't bias towards me. I've had more than my fair share of altercations with Jonathan for example, and he seems to completely agree with me here. The only person I favour on here is Xanth and Anon, you can take shots at me for that if you wish.

 

[Jonathan]

RE: Rights of Members

Well I made the thread before the milestone one but nice try. And the difference is you can read my opinions in a locked thread not a deleted one.

Toss the immature line around, thats your go to attack on me, but i have views of this place you disagree with so you put me down every opportunity. Being admin doesnt make you right and censoring my thoughts doesnt make them have any less merit.

And i dont need to search for things wrong here, they are blatant to anyone who has no bias like the creator of it would obviously have.

Call me immature, your subtle shots at me dont bother me at all kid.

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Just another pawn of the machine :-( sucks to be in that place. Ive complained before, nothing will change, what the fuck will filing an "official" complaint do? Seriously, think before you post all high and mighty.

Whether you made it before or after, if you look in the Locker Room, milestone threads are now being locked.
A locked thread is going to be on page 2 within an hour, especially in the Locker Room, one of the most active sections. So it makes no difference if it's locked or deleted.

He isn't putting you down, he's stating the facts. There is a milestone thread so use it.
Being admin doesn't make him right, but Crayo owns WWEForums so he can do whatever he wants. And ironically on this occasion, he is right.

This isn't #OccupyWallStreet for web censorship... he isn't censoring anything. It contains nothing that harms anyone in any way. He is organising the forum to keep it within the rules.

I have no bias, and there is nothing wrong here.

As in, you think I'm brainwashed by Crayo to thinking everything is fine and dandy for what he did? Ask Crayo. I have argued with him many-a-time when I express my opinion. Most times I'm wrong, just like you are now.

If you even clicked the link, it takes you to Google. As in, stop being immature and grow up. There is no complaint's form, because there's been nothing to complain about.

:tough:

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Rights of Members

Crayo locks/junks my threads all the time and I am the undisputed GOAT of WWEforums

So he may be a blueberry, but he is an equal opportunity blueberry.

now. lock this thread

 

[Jonathan]

Rights of Members

In WWEForums history, coming up to one year in December, the only thing wrong with the forum is members such as yourself.

I'm 100% positive this idiot is WebX, just using Google Translate for grammar.

 

[Mr Cobalt]

RE: Rights of Members

The lack of warnings for members, lack of any real punishment system. The fact whenever I post a status negative about you or here it gets deleted. Same with theads now apparently.

The other stuff is just a vibe of favoritism i personally get, and judging from how many join and say fuck this place, something must be turning them off.

Of course People will agree with you, youre the great crayo and im lowly cobalt, the hated one. I dont care who agrees, once again nothing you say will change my mind and nothing i say will change yours, so we can have a debate so all your fans can make you feel special if you want.

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Now I'm being called an idiot, just about the mature response I'd expect. Nothing is wrong with me by the way I just have a differing opinion than most, dont hate on the minority

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

RE: Rights of Members

The lack of warnings for members, lack of any real punishment system. The fact whenever I post a status negative about you or here it gets deleted. Same with theads now apparently.

The other stuff is just a vibe of favoritism i personally get, and judging from how many join and say fuck this place, something must be turning them off.

Of course People will agree with you, youre the great crayo and im lowly cobalt, the hated one. I dont care who agrees, once again nothing you say will change my mind and nothing i say will change yours, so we can have a debate so all your fans can make you feel special if you want.

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Now I'm being called an idiot, just about the mature response I'd expect. Nothing is wrong with me by the way I just have a differing opinion than most, dont hate on the minority

Leave then cuz. You won't be missed, believe me.

ps white sox suck dick

 

[Mr Cobalt]

RE: Rights of Members

Also what got deletes was by stance that there are too many topics that should be used in statuses instead, but you wouldn't know that since its deleted

 

[Jonathan]

RE: Rights of Members

The lack of warnings for members, lack of any real punishment system. The fact whenever I post a status negative about you or here it gets deleted. Same with theads now apparently.

The other stuff is just a vibe of favoritism i personally get, and judging from how many join and say fuck this place, something must be turning them off.

Of course People will agree with you, youre the great crayo and im lowly cobalt, the hated one. I dont care who agrees, once again nothing you say will change my mind and nothing i say will change yours, so we can have a debate so all your fans can make you feel special if you want.

Well first off you can't see members warning %'s, I can.
And I can tell you THEAidsJohnson has gotten his fair share of warnings, and he is currently banned...
So that's one 'fact' dead and buried already.

You have a negative status comment up now and it's still there.
Number two de-bunked.

How many join and say 'fuck this place' as in my one year stay I am yet to see this.

Well again, I've had many arguments with Crayo, it's not like I kiss his ass.

There's no debate here. You're in the wrong and you're just making yourself look like an ass.

 

[Mr Cobalt]

RE: Rights of Members

Leave then cuz. You won't be missed, believe me.

ps white sox suck dick

I dont care who misses me or not, anonymous people on the internet dont get me all fuzzy.

Nah ill stick around, you guys are hilarious

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Well first off you can't see members warning %'s, I can.
And I can tell you THEAidsJohnson has gotten his fair share of warnings, and he is currently banned...
So that's one 'fact' dead and buried already.

You have a negative status comment up now and it's still there.
Number two de-bunked.

How many join and say 'fuck this place' as in my one year stay I am yet to see this.

Well again, I've had many arguments with Crayo, it's not like I kiss his ass.

There's no debate here. You're in the wrong and you're just making yourself look like an ass.

Check how many people join and arent active. Over 400 joined since i joined and less than 20 are active....so a lot.....

 

[Rysenberg]

RE: Rights of Members

Urgh, I have no interest in coming up with any sort of HQ response because it's a waste of time on somebody like you who will just dismiss it as 'immature'.

To put it bluntly, got just piss off because not one of us on here gives the slightest shit about you or your shitty conspiracy theories.

Or would you not get enough attention by just leaving quietly?

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

Rights of Members

You will always have more lurkers than active members on a forum. Always.

 

[Crayo]

RE: Rights of Members

The lack of warnings for members, lack of any real punishment system. The fact whenever I post a status negative about you or here it gets deleted. Same with theads now apparently.

I'm not a dictator. I don't warn for low-quality posts because that would make me a hypocrite. I warn for offensive insulting flaming style posts, which has resulted in an infamous - and popular - user who you claimed I favoured being dished a one-week ban. My warning policy has always been lenient, it has helped develop this forum into a community, there is a vast difference. It's a policy most of the members here vastly appreciate.

Negative statuses about myself or any other members are removed. If you dislike someone, use the ignore list feature which I've shown you probably 5 times now. If you want to talk to them, PM them, it's a "Private Messaging" system. Statuses are seen to hundreds of people, none of them want to see you whine about me thank you very much.

If you have site issues/feedback, then post it in the right section. Bitching like a kid in this section will most of the time result in closed threads as you will get torn apart and then cry to me via PM.

The other stuff is just a vibe of favoritism i personally get, and judging from how many join and say fuck this place, something must be turning them off.

So not many then :haha:

Of course People will agree with you, youre the great crayo and im lowly cobalt, the hated one. I dont care who agrees, once again nothing you say will change my mind and nothing i say will change yours, so we can have a debate so all your fans can make you feel special if you want.

The two users who have agreed with me here are some of the users I've debated most with, especially Dolph's. The good thing about my moderation style is that I welcome any negative feedback against me. No one feels like I'm above them because I post like them, as a regular user. The reason I made this forum is because I'm a wrestling fan who wants to talk with other wrestling fans without posting on an ugly foundation with strict moderation. That is the same now.

The users here tell me if I'm being a dick. I've apologised numerous times to users, I myself can go out of line and I'm far from perfect. Though I must be doing something right here. No one is trying to impress me lmao.

I'm still waiting for a proper example btw.

 

[Mr Cobalt]

RE: Rights of Members

I enjoy the discussions, I dislike the nonsense threads. So no I won't leave, you would like that too much. Ill just continue getting treated like a Nope by crayo fanboys

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Also, can you change this thread name, you spammed up my original idea, I want people to be able to confide in someone who feels the same, this thread derailed my original intentions, so change this please

 

[Crayo]

RE: Rights of Members

I enjoy the discussions, I dislike the nonsense threads. So no I won't leave, you would like that too much. Ill just continue getting treated like a ***** by crayo fanboys

You do yourselves no favours by saying they're fan boys. Any active user can tell you those two are definitely not my fan boys lmao.

You just make your whole argument look redundant by one ludicrous comment. I'm looking forward to a mature reply to the points I've made.

 

[Jonathan]

RE: Rights of Members

Nothing is wrong with me by the way I just have a differing opinion than most, dont hate on the minority
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Minority? I thought you said everyone who joined said fuck this place? Surely then you're the majority? :burns:

Also what got deletes was by stance that there are too many topics that should be used in statuses instead, but you wouldn't know that since its deleted

If it was for a status, then why make a thread a second time? When he told you the first time it was for a status?

I dont care who misses me or not, anonymous people on the internet dont get me all fuzzy.

Nah ill stick around, you guys are hilarious

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Check how many people join and arent active. Over 400 joined since i joined and less than 20 are active....so a lot.....

It's a shame you're not so hilarious...

Because a lot of them are spam bots and people who sign up to watch the videos. Not to actually contribute. And some sign up just to lurk using an account instead of as a guest. Some make the occasional post.

Well in that case, hackforums.net currently has 301,268 members registered. Only around 1,000 of them are active. So does that mean that 300,000 members hate the site? By your 'logic' it does.

Or would you not get enough attention by just leaving quietly?

Essentially. There's always one on every forum.

I enjoy the discussions, I dislike the nonsense threads. So no I won't leave, you would like that too much. Ill just continue getting treated like a ***** by crayo fanboys

I could essentially have you arrested for a racist slur. You think people don't get arrested for posting things on the internet? Think again.

Also, incoming warning for you.
Don't complain about it, you want a stricter moderation of the forum.