Project 161 Discussion

[Cynic Clinic]

I don't think it's Jacobs. He's coming off the Lacey thing, which changed his life. He was kiss2kill, and then got over Lacey after he fucked her.

I don't think it's Whitmer, because he JUST snapped at the LI show, while the posters were already on the chairs and on the mirrors. This was premeditated.

And on the main page, it says 'WE told you no one is safe' which means it IS more than one person. Now who told you that no one is safe in ROH? A number of people, but it'll narrow it down.

Also, the fact that the myspace shows gabe's wife is just more of the stalker-like way that this angle is going. I hate how my monitor is fucked up or I'd be able to get in on this.

PS- Don't feed the trolls. Ignore the guy.

 

[Viva La Luke]

Thats a an awsome idea Montana.

Imagine having Heyman & Gabe Booking in ROH, Greatness.

 

[Soulpower]

I think there's a connection between Rave "leaving" ROH and Project 161.

There is a picture of the Statue Of Liberty bleeding from the eyes and the words.

Sounds like Jimmy Jacobs last year after Whitmer busted him open with the spike. By the way 161is their show in Chicago and I believe it'll also be their 3rd PPV taping

It mentions "abused society". They can be reffering to ROH wrestlers that haven't been getting their due like... BJ Whitmer (who's been on a losing streak) Adam Pearce (Who we saw almost stalk BJ on Respect is Earned) and Jimmy Rave who always gets overlooked by bookers and fans.

Again, Rave was backstage in the show that took place after he "left" Ring Of Honor. If he was so pissed at people backstage, why visit them?

My guess... Whitmer-Rave and Pearce form a stable. And maybe Jimmy Jacobs has something to do with it, but that's about it.

 

[Rell]

First of all I want to thank everyone for their concern about the other websites situation. I just want to give you all a quick update and let you know that we have gone through the proper channels and gotten the websites shut down. The calls to my house have also stopped. The prank is over. Now I can get back to writing a big ROHwrestling.com Newswire that I will get up on the site by midnight.

Source: Gabe

This is starting to become confusing, I'm not sure about the idea of a Rave/Peirce/Whitmer/Jacobs team, because imo ROH is running a little high on factions at the moment. I'm still under the impression of a Jimmy Jacobs return, and I'm not buying Gabe's announcement for a second.

 

[Soulpower]

^^^Everything Gabe has said is bull.

Is someone was posting pictures of his wife and calling his house, why would he post in a message board instead of calling the police? Its just one hell of good angle.

 

[Viva La Luke]

Normally in wrestling nothing really surprises me, but this is huge i have small theories but there are so many options, just the angle is great.

As for the Pearce/Whitmer/Rave faction i can't really see it happening not at the moment not especially as Rell said there running a little high on factions at the moment, although it's a very good theory.

I still believe think that it's going to be centrered around Jimmy Jacobs, as for the who Rave thing iam still not sure whether he's gone or part of Project 161.

 

[Montana]

I agree with luke, the Whitmer, Peirce, Jacobs faction is a long shot in my opinion, BUT i do this this being centered around Jacobs. To be honest, the more I think about , the more my idea of Heyman and Jacobs makes sense. Doesnt think sound like a storyline Heyman would come up with??? I think at the 3rd ppv Jacobs may return, but ultimately Heyman may play a role with this angle.

 

[Cynic Clinic]

This is too dark for Jacobs. He's all about how love is a battlefield. This guy keeps talking about how there's a stench of people. How there's no honor, how ROH's children will die. It's Pearce for sure. The first line he says on the PPV promo were "The eyes are the gateway to a man's soul." The PPV in New York. That explains the Statue of Liberty bleeding. Pearce is from Chicago, The Second City, place of show 161, the third PPV.

I think Whitmer may be the protagonist to the stable's heeldom. Pearce approaches him and talks about how there is so much pain inside him, and that he can't talk to anyone about it. So that's why he continues to lose for the company he loves, and it's why he WON'T join Pearce's group.

 

[Rell]

He strikes again..

http://foxybanana.com/~bhearsum/project161.html

This is definitely the best angle in wrestling at the moment, its a shame its pretty much flying under the radar.

 

[Alyssa]

If Adam Pearce is behind this brilliance, I will be so disappointed to see such an amazing story line go to such a boring promo man.

I hope it's Jimmy!

Besides, I don't think he's all happy go lucky anymore. He got dark with Kiss2Kill, and I don't think he's in love with Lacey anymore.

Did anyone else see his disappointed look after he had sex with her in the videos?

 

[Rell]

^ I also noticed that, he had the classic "Is this what I really wanted" look...I would love to see Tyler Black and Jimmy Jacobs being brought in, but with dark gimmicks, no more "Do It For Her".

I don't find Pearce's promos boring, I'd say he has the best promos in Ring Of Honor, but as a dark character? Come on, A big bald guy with eye makeup? That wouldn't be the best way to go IMO...

WE KNOW YOUR FEAR
REMORESE AND RESILIENCE MEAN NOTHING

ABUSE US NO LONGER
IGNORED NO LONGER, TAKING OVER IS KEY

UNSPOKEN BONDS
WE ARE THE HOLDERS OF MERCY

THE MERCILESS
OVERTAKE THE WEAK

NO HONOR
SUCCUMB TO THE SOCIETY OF DEATH

ALL IS GONE
HOPE, GREED, AND DESIRE EQUAL FEAR

INJUSTINCE
THE WORLD WILL BOW TO THE ABUSEDSOCIETY

DEFINE US
THE INSURGENCY WILL FALL

FEAR THE ABUSED
SAVIORS OF THE NEW WORLD WITHOUT HONOR

REJECT US
HORDES OF MEN AND THE BLOOD OF HONOR SHALL MAKE WAY

SWEET OR SOUR
THE PROPHECY HAS BEEN REVISITED AND REVISED FOR HONOR KILLS

THE ALLEGIANCE
MAKE WAY THE END IS UPON US CHOICES TO BE MADE

BLEED HONOR
HONOR WILL KILL THE KIDS

CRUCIFY
WE WARNED YOU

WE WONT BE SILENCED
ABUSED AND UNDERUTILIZED, WE ARE NOT HERE FOR A WAR, WE ARE HERE TO DESTROY HONOR AND TAKE OVER



BTW, whats with all the references to The Prophecy?

 

[Alyssa]

As for the Prophecy references, I would love this to include old school goth-like Allison Danger.

Ps. someone on the ROH message board said that poem sounded like the return of The Carnage Crew...

While them returning would be awesome, I had to laugh because they are far too simple to create something this complex...

They like beer and the titty bar... Come on, now!

 

[Rell]

After reading the 2nd PPV results (Couldn't help myself) I have a strong feeling about the Whitmer/Rave/Pearce/Hagadorn thing happening. I'm not sure how Jimmy Jacobs would play into this as he's coming off of a year long feud with Whitmer.

 

[Alyssa]

^The prophecy references would make a lot of sense, then too. BJ having been a part in that stable.

Abused Society, No Honor Society....

The Prophecy never payed attention to the code of honor...

 

[Soulpower]

I don't care how this ends, as long as it ends with Pearce cutting more promos. He might soon take Jacobs spot as top promo guy in ROH. As for Whitmer... He's always been better as a heel than as the face with a never say die attitude.

If this is a stable, I would agree with adding Alisson Danger as a female member.

WE WONT BE SILENCED
ABUSED AND UNDERUTILIZED,

This is why I think that the whole Rave leaving ROH thing might be a part of this. Rave also fits with the underutilized part alongside Whitmer and Pearce.

REMORSE AND RESILIENCE MEAN NOTHING
SWEET OR SOUR (I take this is a reference to Sweeney's crew)

Now we know its a stable. And it seems they'll feud with the other factions in ROH. That's probably why we're getting the references to The Prophecy, they were yet another well-lnown stable in ROH. I'm surprised The Embassy wasn't mentioned here.