Paul Heymen shoots on Ric Flair!

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Paul Heyman, who is now a regular for the UK's tabloid Sun Newspaper had the following negative comments to say about Ric Flair's send off on Monday's Raw:

"OK, so we're going for yet another emotional moment. We had 'em crying at the Hall of Fame. Had 'em at Mania. OK, one more to go. Let's give it to 'em on Raw. And after the first set of reunions for Flair, don't you think it was time for the mass curtain call, the standing ovation, the "thank you Ric" chants and goodnight everybody? It was a treat for everyone to see Ric reunited with Tully and Arn and Windham and JJ. Anyone who knows the story of how JJ left WWE, and the enormous heat between JJ and Vince will tell you, this was Vince McMahon doing what he felt was right for business. Hey, there's Ricky Steamboat. That's a nice tribute. Their worst matches against each should be considered all time classics. Those two were magic together. Michaels' appearance and hug makes it complete. That's some great emotion.But watching Flair cry because Chris Jericho says thank you? Hey, here's John Cena. And he's saluting Flair. Whooop de freakin' do. Yeah yeah, this is basic Thugonomics. What the hell does it have to do with anyone's favorite Flair memories? Cena? Jericho? Where's Fifi the French Maid?"

"And please, I'm begging someone to tell Vince and Kevin Dunn that f'n song about leaving the memories alone is not something that tugs at the heart, nor does it add to the emotion of a Ric Flair testimonial. Play Strauss' Sprach Zarathustra - which was the theme to 2001: A Space Odyssey - all night long. That other song is just Vince and Kevin saying: "Here's the WWE touch to it all that makes it so great. Get over yourselves."

Yeah, :popcom:
 

The Rated R CMStar

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Cena to me made no sense, but the Y2J/Flair relationship has been well established in the past, so to me it made sense. And I prefer the music they played.
 

the dark knight

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he's right about some things...

it did look stupid when they announced the thing on raw. i thought, one more time, wtf? and it took a lot of air time....but it wasn't bad so i didnt say anything.

and yea, WTF is cena doing? he should be next to snitsky chanting thank you ric. being WWE champion doesn't necessarily mean you have to be there for him...you dont even know the prick. jericho...i dont remember any connection between them but jericho's a vet, so it does make kinda sense a bit..
 

CenaMark54

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The tribute was awesome, but they should have broken character a little more.

Orton and Batista should have come out together to the Evolution theme. I realize Orton is a heel and has had some storyline bad blood with Ric, but they showed him crying in the front row for christ sakes.

Would have liked to see Vince and Taker come out live, not on youtube the next day.

This is stuff everyone wanted to see. Who cares if it confuses a couple of marks sitting in Section C.

Also, I have no idea why Cena was in the ring, it seemed kind of wierd and Cena looked to be uncomfortable too. Here he is with Ric friends, family, and greatest rivals. It was just one of those "Cena is the face of the company, lets get him out there deals."
 

C4

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Randy Orton was standing on the outside. And just to correct you TDK, Cena isn't the WWE Champion, Randy Orton is and he was standing on the outside along with Batista and a few others.. chanting "Thank you Ric" :disgust1:

Randy Orton should have been inside the ring even if he was the heel and many other guys who are close to Flair should have been in the ring. As far as The Undertaker and McMahon coming out after the show goes, it was great and it could have pulled off a great moment of RAW.

They could have done the same thing Live! I mean why not? The Undertaker didn't really break his character! He just hugs Flair and does his pose which was a lot like "The Undertaker" But anyways, the farewell went great and that's what really matters!
 

PeepShow

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being WWE champion doesn't necessarily mean you have to be there for him

He isn't the WWE champion, but yeah....

jericho...i dont remember any connection between them but jericho's a vet, so it does make kinda sense a bit..

WCW for like 3 years? and then the WWE for like 6. He mentions Flair in his book and thanks him quite a bit for the success he has had. I was actually wondering when he was gunna come out before he actually came out, b/c I thought for sure we would see him, and we did, so I was happy.
 

the dark knight

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And just to correct you TDK, Cena isn't the WWE Champion

He isn't the WWE champion, but yeah....
rofl. this just shows what his 3 year title reign has done to us. and the spinner belt...seriously guys, whenever you look at it, dont you automatically remember cena? my mind cant put an image of that belt on somebody else tbh.

anyway, what i meant is "he's the new face of the wwe". cenamark already said it...
 

John

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Cena coming out was supposed to be like Everyone in the ring is important and without Cena then WWE would be like saying o' he's not important. the Jericho made a little more sense than Cena but not much more. i would have liked it to see Undertaker come out, but i'll get to see it on youtube.
 

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Quite frankly, I think Paul HeymAn is just trying to get publicity, he's just jealous that he isn't with the WWE anymore and that he has basically nothing to do with wrestling anymore, he's not involved with any big wrestling promotion. Just get a normal day job and stop trying to get attention by criticizing one of the greatest wrestlers of all-time.
 

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Well Cena caming out to thank Flair was Blue. The only reason he was there, as CenaMark said, was because he's the face of the company and he hadn't been out for the show yet, but yes I agree with Heyman it was stupid. Jericho and Flair are actually pretty close from what I understand. I don't think their relationship is played up to the point of HHH's and HBK's relationship with Flair, but him coming out made a lot of sense to me. Personally I would have liked to have had Edge and Orton come into the ring and kick Cena out. Edge was clearly pretty close to Flair, from the way he's acted throughout this whole retirement week. And they showed Orton crying and Edge was the first guy out so why not just let them in the ring anyway?

As far as the music is going wtf is Heymen talking about? I thought that song was perfect for the whole Flair thing. It got a little old because I heard it so much, bu I thought the song made perfect since for Flair's retirment.
 

The Rated R CMStar

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To me Cena was just there because he had not been on the show.

Randy Orton should have been in the ring instead. But of course, the face of the company just can't be lost with the rest of the roster.

I mean, we really don't know if Cena and Flair are friends. Flair cried more when Cena came out than when Y2J did, but if they had The Big Show who was praised just two days ago, and Randy Orton with a lot of history with him, stay outside the ring, they should have kept Cena there, outside the ring.
 

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I do agree with a lot of it. Cena should not have been in the ring - I can understand the rest. Someone I know asked why Batista got an individual entrance. Idiots - he legitimately travelled with Batista and was a menot to him. I also thought the music was pretty fitting myself.
 

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he's right about some things...

it did look stupid when they announced the thing on raw. i thought, one more time, wtf? and it took a lot of air time....but it wasn't bad so i didnt say anything.

and yea, WTF is cena doing? he should be next to snitsky chanting thank you ric. being WWE champion doesn't necessarily mean you have to be there for him...you dont even know the prick. jericho...i dont remember any connection between them but jericho's a vet, so it does make kinda sense a bit..

They have had matches against each other in the past. And chris jericho was a ric flair fan when he was growing up also maybe thats why.
 

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When Batista was introduced I was expecting HHH to do the same with Orton...they did a four horseman reunion, why not Evolution? It would have been so much better if Kayfabe was broken and Vince and Undertaker both came out to show thei appreciation.

As for Cena, him and Flair may have had a good relationship in the back but I think Orton should have been in over Cena.
 

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I cant say I disagree with anything Heyman said except maybe about Cena. I think that Cena going to the ring and paying tribute made sense because he is the face of WWE right now. Ric has also stated time and again how much respect he has for Cena so yea. Jericho though made no sense whatsoever as much as I like him he was out of place. I also thought Batista didnt make much sense (and yes I realize the Evolution connection) but whatever. The Fuel song still makes me wanna puke though, honestly the lame music was really a downer.