Paul Heyman Genius

[edge4ever]

I really want to see Rollins cash in.... If u think about it... The way mania is turning out to be.. All faces are winning... Rollins needs to be the one to throw it off

 

[Prince Bálor]

I really want to see Rollins cash in.... If u think about it... The way mania is turning out to be.. All faces are winning... Rollins needs to be the one to throw it off

That makes two of us.

God, I've been wanting for him to cash in at Mania ever since he won the MITB briefcase, it'd be dope if it happened.

 

[Red Rain]

Dude, there isn't gonna be a triple threat... That was just a passing line on Raw meant to throw a few folks off of the fact that Orton/Rollins is still happening at Wrestlemania. It would be too similar to the championship match at the Rumble, it would leave Randy Orton out in the cold with no one to fight (and Orton is not one to be randomly thrown into a match like the Andre Memorial Battle Royal), and Lesnar losing the championship in a triple-threat is counterproductive to the whole point of putting the title on Brock in the first place, which is so that he can put over the next big star in a one-one-one match. Like you said, it would have ended up being Brock vs Reigns vs Bryan if they wanted to go with a three-way at all.

Let me just add: to those who think Lesnar might tank the Mania match and lay a dud, the 37 year old Lesnar is smarter than the 26 year old Lesnar.
The 26 year old Lesnar left the WWE was behind the ears and believed he was done with WWE for good.
The 37 year old Lesnar knows business and isn't going to leave such a sour taste in WWE's mouth, that he can't return if his MMA career falters.
His WWE shelf life is still longer than his MMA shelf life and Lesnar has to know this.

 

[The GOAT]

I really want to see Rollins cash in.... If u think about it... The way mania is turning out to be.. All faces are winning... Rollins needs to be the one to throw it off

Rollins cashing in at Wrestlemania would be both awesome and historical, but the shitty part is that he would just drop it back to Reigns the next month at Extreme Rules. The fact that it's Extreme Rules means Seth can't just easily disqualify himself to get out of dropping the title, and I don't see him beating Reigns twice in a row.

But yeah, I'm less than certain that a cash-in is happening at Mania anymore at all. Reigns is on the gravy train and I wouldn't even be surprised if they book him to become the first man to survive a sudden cash-in and kick out and pin Rollins all on his own.

 

[Prince Bálor]

Rollins cashing in at Wrestlemania would be both awesome and historical, but the shitty part is that he would just drop it back to Reigns the next month at Extreme Rules. The fact that it's Extreme Rules means Seth can't just easily disqualify himself to get out of dropping the title, and I don't see him beating Reigns twice in a row.

But yeah, I'm less than certain that a cash-in is happening at Mania anymore at all. Reigns is on the gravy train and I wouldn't even be surprised if they book him to become the first man to survive a sudden cash-in and kick out and pin Rollins all on his own.

Seth wouldn't have to drop the titles at ER, there's a possibility of a returning Sheamus brogue kicking the fuck outta Reigns and helping Rollins to retain the title. This is one scenario I can see happening.
Rollins would then have his own little 'reign of terror' before dropping it back to Reigns at SummerSlam.

As far as Rollins not having a successful cash-in goes, whether it's at Mania or the night after the event, I'd absolutely hate that.

 

[Danielson]

Where are you getting this info?...

Lil Birdie

 

[edge4ever]

Lil Birdie

Can I meet her/him?

 

[edge4ever]

Let me just add: to those who think Lesnar might tank the Mania match and lay a dud, the 37 year old Lesnar is smarter than the 26 year old Lesnar.
The 26 year old Lesnar left the WWE was behind the ears and believed he was done with WWE for good.
The 37 year old Lesnar knows business and isn't going to leave such a sour taste in WWE's mouth, that he can't return if his MMA career falters.
His WWE shelf life is still longer than his MMA shelf life and Lesnar has to know this.

True, but Brock did just walk out on a scheduled raw after getting into a screaming match... He may be smarter, but also very egotistical... He may not "blow" the match... But that doesn't mean he will try as hard.

 

[edge4ever]

Rollins cashing in at Wrestlemania would be both awesome and historical, but the shitty part is that he would just drop it back to Reigns the next month at Extreme Rules. The fact that it's Extreme Rules means Seth can't just easily disqualify himself to get out of dropping the title, and I don't see him beating Reigns twice in a row.

But yeah, I'm less than certain that a cash-in is happening at Mania anymore at all. Reigns is on the gravy train and I wouldn't even be surprised if they book him to become the first man to survive a sudden cash-in and kick out and pin Rollins all on his own.

I know reigns is on the gravy train... And he's def the next Cena... But that doesn't mean Rollins will fail at the cash in. Hell, Rollins did just pin reigns on raw... He may have cheated, but he still got the pinfall... This shows that reigns can be stopped and lose... It just takes a lot of cheap tactics and resourcefulness. All of which Rollins has.

I can see Rollins cashing in at mania... Ultimate screw job... Which would get Rollins crazy heat... And could make reigns looks better after he beats him at extreme rules... This wouldn't make Rollins look weak... Much like it didn't really make edge look weak after he cashed in on Cena and then lost the belt a month later to him... Rollins can recover and regain the title at summerslam or something.

I just think the most historic and best way to gain heat is to have it done at mania...

Makes reigns backed into a corner... Look strong.. And Rollins to be the ultimate heel.

 

[The GOAT]

I know reigns is on the gravy train... And he's def the next Cena... But that doesn't mean Rollins will fail at the cash in. Hell, Rollins did just pin reigns on raw... He may have cheated, but he still got the pinfall... This shows that reigns can be stopped and lose... It just takes a lot of cheap tactics and resourcefulness. All of which Rollins has.

I can see Rollins cashing in at mania... Ultimate screw job... Which would get Rollins crazy heat... And could make reigns looks better after he beats him at extreme rules... This wouldn't make Rollins look weak... Much like it didn't really make edge look weak after he cashed in on Cena and then lost the belt a month later to him... Rollins can recover and regain the title at summerslam or something.

I just think the most historic and best way to gain heat is to have it done at mania...

Makes reigns backed into a corner... Look strong.. And Rollins to be the ultimate heel.

Given how apathetic the crowd is towards Reigns, I doubt Seth gets "crazy heat" for cashing in on him. The "biggest pop of the night" would probably be a more accurate way of describing what the crowd reaction would be like.

And I didn't say (nor do I believe) that Rollins would look weak if he immediately dropped the title right back to Reigns, just that it would be disappointing because there's so much you could do with a long title reign for Rollins, and a lengthier reign is the perfect way to pay off the big push that Seth has gotten these past several months.

Nothing says that Seth would definitely without question lose at Extreme Rules in the event of a successful cash-in at Mania, I just think it's the most sensible and reasonable assumption to make considering Reigns would just be coming off of defeating Brock Lesnar. To be cashed in on after the most brutal match of your life is one thing, but to lose to a heel like Rollins via your typical, nefarious means the following month as well? I have trouble buying WWE would book it that way, even if we ponder something like Sheamus returning and costing Reigns the match like Prince Balor mentioned earlier. They're no doubt gonna shove Reigns down our throats until we either accept it or until it flops so badly that they're forced to abandon their hopes of him becoming the next top guy and go with something else.

Then again, there's always hope. But that's what I said in regards to Reigns losing the Royal Rumble match as well.

 

[Danielson]

Can I meet her/him?

 

[KITT]

Given how apathetic the crowd is towards Reigns, I doubt Seth gets "crazy heat" for cashing in on him. The "biggest pop of the night" would probably be a more accurate way of describing what the crowd reaction would be like.

And I didn't say (nor do I believe) that Rollins would look weak if he immediately dropped the title right back to Reigns, just that it would be disappointing because there's so much you could do with a long title reign for Rollins, and a lengthier reign is the perfect way to pay off the big push that Seth has gotten these past several months.

Nothing says that Seth would definitely without question lose at Extreme Rules in the event of a successful cash-in at Mania, I just think it's the most sensible and reasonable assumption to make considering Reigns would just be coming off of defeating Brock Lesnar. To be cashed in on after the most brutal match of your life is one thing, but to lose to a heel like Rollins via your typical, nefarious means the following month as well? I have trouble buying WWE would book it that way, even if we ponder something like Sheamus returning and costing Reigns the match like Prince Balor mentioned earlier. They're no doubt gonna shove Reigns down our throats until we either accept it or until it flops so badly that they're forced to abandon their hopes of him becoming the next top guy and go with something else.

Then again, there's always hope. But that's what I said in regards to Reigns losing the Royal Rumble match as well.

You're very concerned about Reigns being down your throat. Odd choice of words, buddy.

 

[edge4ever]

You name the time and place.

 

[Nice Person]

Hey All,

Paul Heyman is simply a genius. His promo last night was emotional, intelligent, and intense. We all know that Paul is a genius and knows how to work a crowd. But, Paul mentioned "rumors" about brock seemingly not performing at wrestlemania.

Was Paul addressing the very, very small portion of the WWE universe who knows that Brock and Vince argued? What did that mean?

Regardless of that confusing statement by Paul, his ability to "wing it" and take feuds to another level is amazing.

I felt this was probably my favorite segment on raw. What do you all think? I mean will Brock stay gone until mania?

We have taker gone till mania... Sting rarely shows up.... Now Brock is gone.. I love Paul but he can't carry the whole damn thing!

Brock will show up and destroy Rusev, then destroy Sting, then destroy Triple H, then destroy Kane, The Big Show, Seth Rollins, Seth Rollins' 'Goons,' then goose Steph to the delight of the audience (LOL.)

 

[edge4ever]

Given how apathetic the crowd is towards Reigns, I doubt Seth gets "crazy heat" for cashing in on him. The "biggest pop of the night" would probably be a more accurate way of describing what the crowd reaction would be like.

And I didn't say (nor do I believe) that Rollins would look weak if he immediately dropped the title right back to Reigns, just that it would be disappointing because there's so much you could do with a long title reign for Rollins, and a lengthier reign is the perfect way to pay off the big push that Seth has gotten these past several months.

Nothing says that Seth would definitely without question lose at Extreme Rules in the event of a successful cash-in at Mania, I just think it's the most sensible and reasonable assumption to make considering Reigns would just be coming off of defeating Brock Lesnar. To be cashed in on after the most brutal match of your life is one thing, but to lose to a heel like Rollins via your typical, nefarious means the following month as well? I have trouble buying WWE would book it that way, even if we ponder something like Sheamus returning and costing Reigns the match like Prince Balor mentioned earlier. They're no doubt gonna shove Reigns down our throats until we either accept it or until it flops so badly that they're forced to abandon their hopes of him becoming the next top guy and go with something else.

Then again, there's always hope. But that's what I said in regards to Reigns losing the Royal Rumble match as well.

I meant "heat" in an a broad sense, not literally just in that moment. Can you imagine Rollins coming out the next night rAw at the start of the show with the championship on, grinning, strutting into the ring saying "I told you so!!!" People would boo, semi cheer... Eat it up... Either way. Ultimate heat and heel status.

True, but I feel that Rollins can have a lengthy run after sunmerlam this year... Let him make Some history at mania... And screw roman over... Get a little distracted in a good feud. Then bounce back at summer slam to beat roman.

The shheamus thing is possible. And, yes, they will shove reigns down our throats whether the crowd truly wants him or not... They're making him into the next Cena... When, If you ask me, it made more sense for Cena to get a huge push than reigns. Comparatively speaking, of course. Cena has proven to sell out areanas, merchandise, fb, Twitter, etc.... Reigns, well, just does really do that does he? I'm unaware of it.

Please let's not talk about the rumble.... Fucking waste of a PPV 2 years in a row.