Orton Turning Heel / Ziggler Turning Face

[Dolph'sZiggler]

In MY humble opinion. As I already stated. He is to me like soup without salt lol. If you know what I mean. I simply dont care about him. Unlike, Cena for example. Even though I think that WWE is pushing Cena way too much, to the point of annoyance, but he still got reaction. The good or the bad one. Not matter.

Also, why take this too sirious? We are talking about f****** WWE, not rocket science.Especially to take someones opinion too sirious, knowing that opinions are like an a$$, everyone has one lol.:urm:

What part of my post made you think I was taking anything serious? I can't disagree with your opinion without it meaning I'm taking it too serious?

 

[Leo C]

Yeah, Ziggler never gets mic time. Which is wrong.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

I think it's hard to discuss charisma with Dolph with the way he's been booked. We'll know more when he gets consistent mic time, match time and actual importance in storylines. At the moment he has such limited opportunities to show his charisma, but if you look at his mic work with Foley and Jericho, you can see he has it (in my opinion). They're the best promos he's cut so far.

Charisma is a lot more than just mic skills. Just look at Ziggler in his entrance or in a match. The guy oozes charisma. DZ could be eating breakfast and you would want to watch him because he draws you in. That's charisma

 

[Leo C]

Indeed, mic skills don't equal charisma. Mic skills are your speaking abilities, period. Charisma involves many more aspects, your naturality, facial expressions, body language, the way you carry yourself, being good in front of a crowd, etc. etc.

 

[Peachich]

I think it's hard to discuss charisma with Dolph with the way he's been booked. We'll know more when he gets consistent mic time, match time and actual importance in storylines. At the moment he has such limited opportunities to show his charisma, but if you look at his mic work with Foley and Jericho, you can see he has it (in my opinion). They're the best promos he's cut so far.

You have a very good point. It seems like he havent got the real opportunity to show his true colors, thats what I agree with. But still, he doesnt vibe to me as a real thing, dunno how to say it. He is just another average Joe. I do not see him as a future real Superstar.

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I agree, Ziggler is one hell of an athlete, but he's not the best on the mic. I like when he does the ask the heel stuff, but every time I see him on Raw he does a basic heel promo, nothing really stands out. Ziggler is in my top 3 fav superstars so I'm not no DZ hater.

Yep, you nailed it. Nothing stands out about him. Also, just to clarify, I am not Ziggler's hater as well.

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What part of my post made you think I was taking anything serious? I can't disagree with your opinion without it meaning I'm taking it too serious?

You are taking my words out of context now. Just, your reaction to my post was a bit of overwhelming. At least to me :smug:

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Indeed, mic skills don't equal charisma. Mic skills are your speaking abilities, period. Charisma involves many more aspects, your naturality, facial expressions, body language, the way you carry yourself, being good in front of a crowd, etc. etc.

Exactly. And thats why he does nothing (sp) for me.