Oldest Pro Wrestling Match On Film

[F.R.I.E]

dude the over of the dvd that used the unstailed title as the cover in the wwe dvd! just b/c that used current title belt design does not mean it not true! the world title belt design changed all time same as the wwe title belt design changed over years! what does fuckin cover of a current title design have anything to with the fact here?! the world title has been around since 1905 just deal with it!

Talking about in the DVD. The concept of the title has been around since then but not the actual belt design.

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

Saying the belt being contested in that video is the same title as the NWA title (or the WWE title, for that matter) is like saying the Cleveland Browns should have eight Lombardi Trophies because they won 4 NFL Championships and 4 AAFC (All-America Football Conference) Championships, all before the advent of the Super Bowl.

It's not completely untrue, but it's not true enough to be right, either.

wk

REALLY! NFL football ur copaining to pro wrestling!? It not like in the wwe dvd there hunting old world champion that show old photo of old world champion from 1908!

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

Talking about in the DVD. The concept of the title has been around since then but not the actual belt design.

dude fuckin cover that could any belt design that chose the onecover b/c the title people see today it nothing with anything! Ur shit make no sense! the world title design has changed over year it been around since 1905 u know how many fuckin belt design over years!?

 

[Stopspot]

This video explains it perfectly.
Explaining how it started as the First world heavyweight championship, not represented by one particular organization, but by wrestling in general. It was then retired and replaced by the NWA once the NWA took over, making it the heir/son of the original belt, but not the belt itself. And how the NWA then splintered into the AWA, WWF, WCW, ECW and TNA (yes, TNA's belt can also lay claim to that belt's history).

Or as I show in this graph.

 

[Wacokid27]

REALLY! NFL football ur copaining to pro wrestling!?

Considering that in-show, WWE considers itself a professional sports league, isn't that a legitimate thing for someone to do?

I'm sorry, was I just supposed to post: "I rite! Ur dumass!"

wk

 

[F.R.I.E]

dude fuckin cover that could any belt design that chose the onecover b/c the title people see today it nothing with anything! Ur shit make no sense! the world title design has changed over year it been around since 1905 u know how many fuckin belt design over years!?

What are you even saying?

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

This video explains it perfectly.
Explaining how it started as the First world heavyweight championship, not represented by one particular organization, but by wrestling in general. It was then retired and replaced by the NWA once the NWA took over, making it the heir/son of the original belt, but not the belt itself. And how the NWA then splintered into the AWA, WWF, WCW, ECW and TNA (yes, TNA's belt can also lay claim to that belt's history).

Or as I show in this graph.

no that wrong the nwa title become the wcw title! and wwe title was made it self! wwe was never apart of the nwa title! awa was never apart of nwa either! also u seen to forget the nwa title is still around today but is just need belt since wcw took the 1st one!

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

also fuckin the nwa ttle really ended when wcw left then in the early 90's! nwa did make a new title and keep the records of it from when was in wcw but it not the really nwa title! the really nwa is the current world title in wwe which is now one with the wwe title!

 

[Stopspot]

no that wrong the nwa title become the wcw title! and wwe title was made it self! wwe was never apart of the nwa title! awa was never apart of nwa either! also u seen to forget the nwa title is still around today but is just need belt since wcw took the 1st one!

The AWA and WWF were parts of the NWA. They were territories of the NWA, who decided that they no longer wanted to be part of the NWA and left, creating their own world championships in the process. WWF was at the time known as Capitol city wrestling and was run by Vine McMahon senior, when he split from the NWA it became the WWWF and regional champion Buddy Rogers was named world champion. So the WWE belt is a in direct descendant of the NWA belt.

Also this is how the NWA world championship looks like:

And has done since it's inception.

The big gold belt was created as the WCW international heavyweight title, but was merged with the WCW version of the NWA belt when WCW split from the NWA.

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

The AWA and WWF were parts of the NWA. They were territories of the NWA, who decided that they no longer wanted to be part of the NWA and left, creating their own world championships in the process. WWF was at the time known as Capitol city wrestling and was run by Vine McMahon senior, when he split from the NWA it became the WWWF and regional champion Buddy Rogers was named world champion. So the WWE belt is a in direct descendant of the NWA belt.

Also this is how the NWA world championship looks like:

And has done since it's inception.

The big gold belt was created as the WCW international heavyweight title, but was merged with the WCW version of the NWA belt when WCW split from the NWA.

WRONG AGAIN! The belt was made for Flair! and the NWA title was the big gold belt! but then flair got fire the international heavyweight title was made like u said after wcw got belt back from wwf! I rember ricky steamboat winning the nwa title but had big gold belt not title showing right now! queit lieing!

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

when wcw was apart of nwa it used the big gold belt! but when wcw left nwa then the nwa when back to using the belt belt ur showing us! but when it was wcw that used the big gold belt! until Flair got fire from wcw! then he took to wwf but then wcw got it back and then made it the international heavyweight title! and then wcw used that other title until Flair cam back and meagge the new wcw world title with the big gold belt title by beating Vader!

 

[Wacokid27]

when wcw was apart of nwa it used the big gold belt! but when wcw left nwa then the nwa when back to using the belt belt ur showing us! but when it was wcw that used the big gold belt! until Flair got fire from wcw! then he took to wwf but then wcw got it back and then made it the international heavyweight title! and then wcw used that other title until Flair cam back and meagge the new wcw world title with the big gold belt title by beating Vader!

This is a point where you're not quite wrong, but you're not quite right either.

The Big Gold Belt did not represent the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. It represented the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. The WCW at that point was allied with the NWA and was the "home promotion" of Ric Flair, who was both the NWA and WCW World Heavyweight Champion for the majority of the time (an exception occurred in March of 1991, when Tatsumi Fujinami defeated Flair for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship but Flair remained WCW World Heavyweight Champion; during that time, Flair continued to carry the BGB as the WCW World Heavyweight Champ). When Flair left WCW in July of 1991 and went to the WWF, he took the BGB with him (coincidentally, WCW would declare their WHC vacant in July and crown Lex Luger as the next WCW WHC while NWA would wait until September to vacate their title and subsequently crown Masahiro Chrono as the new NWA WHC). The belt that Flair took with him was owned by Jim Crockett Promotions/World Championship Wrestling, not the NWA, and Flair refused to return it due to his deposit not being paid back by Jim Herd (who ran WCW for Turner). WCW commissioned a new BGB. When Flair, after a settlement was reached between WWF and WCW with Flair as a third party (or between Flair and WCW with WWF as a broker...it wasn't an open legal proceeding, but a business deal so the records aren't publicly accessible), returned the BGB, it was used as the title belt for a subsidiary of WCW called "WCW International" and represented the "WCW International World Heavyweight Champion", the position it filled until the WCW International WHC was unified with the WCW WHC.

The BGB would continue to represent the WCW Champion (along with the other designations it was given along the way) until the unification of the WCW and WWF Championships into the Undisputed WWF Championship by Chris Jericho in 2001 and the BGB would be temporarily retired in 2002.

The BGB would be brought back in September of 2002 as the "Undisputed WWF Championship" had become disputed due to the unwillingness of Undisputed Champion Brock Lesnar (who was "exclusively signed" to Smackdown) refused to recognize any contenders from Raw, thus causing Raw GM Eric Bischoff to declare the title "disputed" and leading to him awarding the World Heavyweight Championship (represented by the BGB) to Triple H. The BGB continues to represent the World Heavyweight Champion and Randy Orton carries it to represent that half of the "WWE World Heavyweight Championship".

Meanwhile, the NWA World Heavyweight Championship has been represented by a different title belt altogether (the classic belt displayed above) whenever the WCW and NWA WHC's were different people, and then exclusively since the split between WCW and NWA.

wk

 

[seabs]

This is a point where you're not quite wrong, but you're not quite right either.

The Big Gold Belt did not represent the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. It represented the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. The WCW at that point was allied with the NWA and was the "home promotion" of Ric Flair, who was both the NWA and WCW World Heavyweight Champion for the majority of the time (an exception occurred in March of 1991, when Tatsumi Fujinami defeated Flair for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship but Flair remained WCW World Heavyweight Champion; during that time, Flair continued to carry the BGB as the WCW World Heavyweight Champ). When Flair left WCW in July of 1991 and went to the WWF, he took the BGB with him (coincidentally, WCW would declare their WHC vacant in July and crown Lex Luger as the next WCW WHC while NWA would wait until September to vacate their title and subsequently crown Masahiro Chrono as the new NWA WHC). The belt that Flair took with him was owned by Jim Crockett Promotions/World Championship Wrestling, not the NWA, and Flair refused to return it due to his deposit not being paid back by Jim Herd (who ran WCW for Turner). WCW commissioned a new BGB. When Flair, after a settlement was reached between WWF and WCW with Flair as a third party (or between Flair and WCW with WWF as a broker...it wasn't an open legal proceeding, but a business deal so the records aren't publicly accessible), returned the BGB, it was used as the title belt for a subsidiary of WCW called "WCW International" and represented the "WCW International World Heavyweight Champion", the position it filled until the WCW International WHC was unified with the WCW WHC.

The BGB would continue to represent the WCW Champion (along with the other designations it was given along the way) until the unification of the WCW and WWF Championships into the Undisputed WWF Championship by Chris Jericho in 2001 and the BGB would be temporarily retired in 2002.

The BGB would be brought back in September of 2002 as the "Undisputed WWF Championship" had become disputed due to the unwillingness of Undisputed Champion Brock Lesnar (who was "exclusively signed" to Smackdown) refused to recognize any contenders from Raw, thus causing Raw GM Eric Bischoff to declare the title "disputed" and leading to him awarding the World Heavyweight Championship (represented by the BGB) to Triple H. The BGB continues to represent the World Heavyweight Champion and Randy Orton carries it to represent that half of the "WWE World Heavyweight Championship".

wk

It's a shame this will be responded to by "OH HELLL NO I WATCH DVD STFU TROLL!" Fantastic post dude.

 

[Wacokid27]

It's a shame this will be responded to by "OH HELLL NO I WATCH DVD STFU TROLL!" Fantastic post dude.

That's okay. I've learned my lesson. Next time, I'll just post: "I RITE U RONG! CASE CLOSED!"

wk

 

[Super Saiyan Goku]

This is a point where you're not quite wrong, but you're not quite right either.

The Big Gold Belt did not represent the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. It represented the WCW World Heavyweight Championship. The WCW at that point was allied with the NWA and was the "home promotion" of Ric Flair, who was both the NWA and WCW World Heavyweight Champion for the majority of the time (an exception occurred in March of 1991, when Tatsumi Fujinami defeated Flair for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship but Flair remained WCW World Heavyweight Champion; during that time, Flair continued to carry the BGB as the WCW World Heavyweight Champ). When Flair left WCW in July of 1991 and went to the WWF, he took the BGB with him (coincidentally, WCW would declare their WHC vacant in July and crown Lex Luger as the next WCW WHC while NWA would wait until September to vacate their title and subsequently crown Masahiro Chrono as the new NWA WHC). The belt that Flair took with him was owned by Jim Crockett Promotions/World Championship Wrestling, not the NWA, and Flair refused to return it due to his deposit not being paid back by Jim Herd (who ran WCW for Turner). WCW commissioned a new BGB. When Flair, after a settlement was reached between WWF and WCW with Flair as a third party (or between Flair and WCW with WWF as a broker...it wasn't an open legal proceeding, but a business deal so the records aren't publicly accessible), returned the BGB, it was used as the title belt for a subsidiary of WCW called "WCW International" and represented the "WCW International World Heavyweight Champion", the position it filled until the WCW International WHC was unified with the WCW WHC.

The BGB would continue to represent the WCW Champion (along with the other designations it was given along the way) until the unification of the WCW and WWF Championships into the Undisputed WWF Championship by Chris Jericho in 2001 and the BGB would be temporarily retired in 2002.

The BGB would be brought back in September of 2002 as the "Undisputed WWF Championship" had become disputed due to the unwillingness of Undisputed Champion Brock Lesnar (who was "exclusively signed" to Smackdown) refused to recognize any contenders from Raw, thus causing Raw GM Eric Bischoff to declare the title "disputed" and leading to him awarding the World Heavyweight Championship (represented by the BGB) to Triple H. The BGB continues to represent the World Heavyweight Champion and Randy Orton carries it to represent that half of the "WWE World Heavyweight Championship".

Meanwhile, the NWA World Heavyweight Championship has been represented by a different title belt altogether (the classic belt displayed above) whenever the WCW and NWA WHC's were different people, and then exclusively since the split between WCW and NWA.

wk

dude world title was the nwa title with wcw! nwa did make the vated after flair was fire until he appear on wwf tv for the 1st time! so he own both belts. the wcw world title and the nwa title were same until wcw left nwa!