Official 2020 NFL Season Thread

[Hoss]

They won the Super Bowl. Obviously they weren't that mediocre a team.

 

[Bobby Barrows]

They won the Super Bowl. Obviously they weren't that mediocre a team.

The 2010 San Diego Chargers were 1st in Offense and 1st in Defense and still missed the playoffs with a 9-7 record. It's true a record isn't everything but context is needed for each team. The 2011 Giants were 9th Offensively but 25th Defensively. They were a mediocre team that happened to get hot at the right time, plus all of their post-season victories from the Conference Round onwards were come-from-behind.

Just saying, the 2011 Giants were the definition of mediocre.

 

[Chris]

Also to be fair, most of those teams that get in with shitty records are division winners, assuming this new format simply adds more wildcard teams then you probably won't end up with more shitty teams, but more good teams that would have lost their spot to shitty division winners under the current playoff format.

 

[Showstopper]

This move just screams 'we want more money.' That's all it's about. I'm not saying it ruins the NFL or anything. The NFL is pretty much bulletproof these days as we all just love the game of football. It just seems kind of pointless, again, outside of the money.

 

[Hoss]

The 2010 San Diego Chargers were 1st in Offense and 1st in Defense and still missed the playoffs with a 9-7 record. It's true a record isn't everything but context is needed for each team. The 2011 Giants were 9th Offensively but 25th Defensively. They were a mediocre team that happened to get hot at the right time, plus all of their post-season victories from the Conference Round onwards were come-from-behind.

Just saying, the 2011 Giants were the definition of mediocre.

I really don't think any of that is that important. The goal is winning games and ultimately titles. You can be dead last in all statistical categories but if you get the job done at the end of the day... you're good.

On the flipside, if you go 13-3 and can't get get the win when the chips are down... meh. Record didn't really mean much, did it?

So I mean, yeah. A 9-7 record is mediocre and ranking 20th in defense is mediocre. True that. But once you win the title, you shouldn't be called mediocre. Imo.

 

[Petty]

If you win when it matters, you aren't mediocre. So, stop that shit. The Giants being 9-7 and winning it all means they were simply the better team that year.

In more important information.. Burrow has stated he don't wanna play for the Bengals. lol

 

[Chris]

It doesn't mean they were the better team that year lmao it means they were the better team THAT GAME I mean I also kinda agree that if a team wins their league's championship and literally cannot have a better outcome then you shouldn't really criticize them either, but I also don't think it's a rule that you have to think the champions are the absolute best team when people get lucky, injured, or whatever else in sports. Like I mean upsets happen all the time, and I don't think anyone thinks that every team that upsets a number one team in basketball is better...except for SFA beating Duke which should have had them ranked number 1 in the country 4 LIFE

 

[Petty]

It doesn't mean they were the better team that year lmao it means they were the better team THAT GAME I mean I also kinda agree that if a team wins their league's championship and literally cannot have a better outcome then you shouldn't really criticize them either, but I also don't think it's a rule that you have to think the champions are the absolute best team when people get lucky, injured, or whatever else in sports. Like I mean upsets happen all the time, and I don't think anyone thinks that every team that upsets a number one team in basketball is better...except for SFA beating Duke which should have had them ranked number 1 in the country 4 LIFE

Wrong.
Luck only plays a small part in winning. Very small part. If you guys are gonna sit here and cry about what a teams record is and when it comes to winning just because it isn't your team then I dunno what to tell you. Your team can try again next year. My team can't win a god damn playoff game and you don't see me bitching and moaning about it.

Regardless of who wants to agree or not, you win it all you are basically the best team in the league for that year. You got the championship to prove it. Just what it is. I'm not gonna argue that opinion with anyone cause that's just the way I see it. Shit happens.

 

[Chris]

I just don't like assigning hard "rules" to what's considered the "best" in anything. Most years I 100% agree the team that wins the championship is the best in the league, and even if I don't think they were the best team in the league then I agree they were the best in the championship game bc they won it....but I mean if you think every team that gets an upset is better than the team they beat then I can accept that bc SFA is better than Duke AXE EM

 

[Vegeta]

Also to be fair, most of those teams that get in with shitty records are division winners, assuming this new format simply adds more wildcard teams then you probably won't end up with more shitty teams, but more good teams that would have lost their spot to shitty division winners under the current playoff format.

This is a really good point, it might actually get more good teams in who deserve it over a team who got in only cause the while damn division sucked. Like the 2014 NFC South. Panthers made it in with a really shitty record of 7-8-1, because the whole division that year was straight up ass. Then you had the Eagles, who were 10-6 miss the playoffs, because they didn't get a wildcard because they weren't as good as The Lions and Cardinals. So we would've had another winning team actually get in to the playoffs, where a team with a losing record actually made it. But the NFC as a whole kind of blew that year, cause an 8-8 49ers also would've made it as well. Just slightly better than the Panthers.

 

[Vegeta]

I just don't like assigning hard "rules" to what's considered the "best" in anything. Most years I 100% agree the team that wins the championship is the best in the league, and even if I don't think they were the best team in the league then I agree they were the best in the championship game bc they won it....but I mean if you think every team that gets an upset is better than the team they beat then I can accept that bc SFA is better than Duke AXE EM

I still remember how happy I was when Mercer beat Duke during March Madness a few years ago. so many people's brackets got busted cause of that game. My hometown was happy as hell tho. It all ended their next game when Tennessee beat them, but for a moment they felt like they were on top of the world.

 

[Petty]

Too bad SFA will never matter again...though.

 

[Vegeta]

Too bad SFA will never matter again...though.

Kind of like them Cincinnati Bengals am I right?

 

[Chris]

This is a really good point, it might actually get more good teams in who deserve it over a team who got in only cause the while damn division sucked. Like the 2014 NFC South. Panthers made it in with a really shitty record of 7-8-1, because the whole division that year was straight up ass. Then you had the Eagles, who were 10-6 miss the playoffs, because they didn't get a wildcard because they weren't as good as The Lions and Cardinals. So we would've had another winning team actually get in to the playoffs, where a team with a losing record actually made it. But the NFC as a whole kind of blew that year, cause an 8-8 49ers also would've made it as well. Just slightly better than the Panthers.

Yeah exactly. People automatically assume shittier teams are gonna make it in when that's probably not going to be the case with a wildcard format. I actually prefer the division system the NFL uses for playoffs better than say the NBA's of just taking the best 8 teams of each conference bc taking the best 8 doesn't factor in your divisions strength of schedule bc the NBA still plays within their division more. It would basically make playing each member of the division twice in a season meaningless if the NFL went to that, every regular season game would count the same instead of division ones being more important.

 

[Petty]

Kind of like them Cincinnati Bengals am I right?

They matter more than them Falcons any day of the week.