New talent pushed, will this continue?

[CMS]

I am not sure about 0 cred for the common audience. sure, his tag team stint took away from it and he has jobbed straight now like for 3 weeks, but to the people out there, he was still the US champ not so long ago, and Miz still gets some sick heat.

 

[Hometown Kid]

Miz gets heat because of his mic skills and general irritability. But his look, style, gimmick. He's never going to be taken seriously as a top contender until he completely transforms himself. Even his name...as soon as I think of his name I imagine a Santino-esque comedy character. Plus the Cena feud and US Title reign (In which he didn't defend it in 3 months!) didn't help his cause any. If the belt had any value i'd say he squandered it all, but yeah...to me, he's got a long way to go at this point.

Also, i'm not a fan of his wrestling currently, but he's improved a tremendous amount since his debut. He can be a main eventer with just a few tweaks to himself, and I might even approve if he keeps improving.

 

[Airfixx]

Wrong, Danielson pinned Miz and tossed him onto Cole postmatch which got him over with the crowd, The Usos are being treated as a big deal and they attacked the Heart Dynasty yet again. I don't care if "they're the only team left", they're still getting a push, the fact that they're the only team left for Dynasty to feud with (which is wrong too, because they could feud with Miz/Jericho) has nothing to do with anything. And as for Bourne, he pinned former world champion Sheamus and he teamed with John Cena in the main event. If that isn't a push, I don't know what is...

The point of the thread is will these guys continue to be elevated or will everything come to a halt by next week? There's no arguing that these guys are being made to look much better than they were previously, I don't see how anyone can dispute that.

The reason the question is being asked is the very same reason why it would be premature of anyone to perceive these incidents as pushes already. Is it really necessary to remind ya'll of the co-called 'pushes' of MVP, Kofi, Henry, JoMo, Legacy and so on?

 

[JurassicBonez]

^ Thus the point of the thread, will these pushes continue? The fact that YOU don't think these guys are even getting pushes in the first place leaves you with no opinion though, so you can't really answer the question I posed in the first place.

I can't answer the question why? You say the guys are getting pushes. I don't think they are. A push is something that happens consecutively not just a one time thing. Because you see a push being that someone gets one win over someone? Because someone who hasn't been on tv (Ryder) makes an appearance. I don't see that being a push. They could instantly get squashed/buried next week. . Ryder being on tv and getting bitched out by a diva is a push? He's on the damn roster. Of course he gets on tv. Kingston/Orton was a push for Kingston. Truth is getting a push now. IF they follow up on Bourne and have him look legit against the main eventers, then it's a push. The Uso's? Is debuting on tv really a push? They are making them look like a threat against The Harts. It's only been 2 weeks. Depending on how they follow up, I'd consider it a push.

This is what bothers me. You don't have to be elevated to championship matches for you to be "pushed". Mark Henry was stuck in an on and off tag team with MVP doing nothing. For me, the fact that he even was in a qualifying match against Sheamus and was destroyed by Batista is a push, even if he was the flavor of the month. Evan Bourne was hanging around with Gail Kim and losing to Zack Ryder, so him beating Sheamus is a damn big push. The Usos have been in TV for two weeks, and WWE instead of continuing Hart Dinasty vs JeriMiz or throwing another random pairing at the champs are giving two rookies some nice TV time (BTW, don't know what you saw, but I heard some nice heat for the promo they cut, and when they debuted at least some people booed).

I don't see a push just being in championship matches. I don't see a push just getting a win over someone else. I DO see a push as something that goes on. Not just a one time thing and getting dropped. Mark Henry looked like he was on the verge of being pushed, but he was jobbed to hell and not seen since. I don't see that as a push. Mark Henry went from floating around, to jobbing, that's a push? Bourne got the pin in a big match. Good job. If they follow up on that and he looks credible against the big guys, I'll consider it a push. If he starts jobbing again, is it a push when he's doing the same thing he's been doing since coming to Raw? I honestly didn't see the promo that the Uso's cut their 2nd week.

Oh, and for Daniel Bryan. We have to forget for one second that he was the King of Indies. In the world of WWE, he's a guy who spent the entire season of NXT jobbing and getting ripped in commentary and some cheap shtos by Striker. So for him to beat Miz, even if Miz has spent some nice time the past couple of weeks losing is actually a push. The fact that he was on Raw was a push. And feuding with Cole is a push.Not only does Cole get great heat when set in the ring (watch NXT), but to say it's not a push because Cole is not a wrestler is like saying someone feuding an authority figure aka Vince Mcmahon is not a push.

Daniel Bryan was a worthless jobber on NXT. He's gone remember. This is Danielson we're seeing (if memory serves correct, he's still calling him self Daniel Bryan though). And he's feuding with a commentator. Micheal Cole at that. I don' t see how that's a push. It's not that Cole isn't a wreslter, it's that he's a commentator. What real relevance is their in feuding with Cole? Does that make Danielson better cause he beat Cole? Will that help him in the future because he beat Cole? How is being on Raw push? The whole damn roster is getting a push then. That nameless jobber is getting a push.

..... Are you implying that Cole is on the same level as Mr. McMahon?

^ CMS does it again, hey Bonez, read that

Does what exactly?

 

[chessarmy]

^ Alright, its obvious you won't change your mind so we should probably just move on. And as for your last question there, I liked CMS' post so I was putting him over.