Most overrated & Most underrated

[Dat Kid1]

I'm on the fence about Ryback vs Punk. Not on what I think about it, ofc it was a poor match, but I don't get it. Unless Punk is wrestling someone like DB or Jericho, he calls the entire match, and he's very good at it. Why would he let the match flow like that, when obviously Ryback didn't get a word in? I think they just wanted Ryback to look very very strong (whoever booked the match=they), so they told them to work like that, and it backfired in the form of a bad match. I may be wrong, but I just find it weird.

Punk typically does better with guys his size or smaller and part of that has to do with his back. I noticed he grabs on to it a lot, so no doubt he wouldn't be able to do his repertoire of moves on a guy who is the size of Ryback and you can add that to wanting to make Ryback look dominant.

 

[Leo C]

Punk typically does better with guys his size or smaller and part of that has to do with his back. I noticed he grabs on to it a lot, so no doubt he wouldn't be able to do his repertoire of moves on a guy who is the size of Ryback and you can add that to wanting to make Ryback look dominant.

This is true, he has a bad back. But he delivered the GTS to Kane last Monday, I guess he could've handled Ryback. Can't remember many moves of his that require lifting off the top of my head.

 

[Dat Kid1]

This is true, he has a bad back. But he delivered the GTS to Kane last Monday, I guess he could've handled Ryback. Can't remember many moves of his that require lifting off the top of my head.

True as well and I would like to go back and see that match to investigate it further, because that might have been the only lifting move Punk did that entire match.

Just to name a few
Northern Lights Suplex
German Suplex
Back Drop
Butterfly Suplex
He occasionally does a superplex from time to time

That's all I can think of at the moment. Ryback does weigh less than Kane, so you're right.

 

[Cloud]

I think Edge is also overrated in some terms. He was entertaining no doubt, but some say he is the best wrestler ever, which I disagree. He was very entertaining, especially as a heel, but when it comes to in ring, no not the best afar.

Edge had a talent for being able as Foley was knowing the perfect timing of matches and when to do moves to get the greatest reactions out of the crowd. Which is the entertaining part he got the psychology of a wrestling match.

 

[Dat Kid1]

I'll do overrated on this joint, cos I'm cool like that.

Overrated - Ryback, he's been in the E for 7 years I reckon and still can't work a 20 minute match? I'm sorry but that performance at HIAC was worse than Batista, Warrior and a few other "terrible" workers.... if he can't do it now will he ever? If you can't atleast be carried to a decent match by Punk you have no chance. Plus he lacks variety IMO, the whole dominant monster will get old without depth, what else can he do? He needs to look at Taker and see how to change himself up. He's a very good talent for what it's worth, very similar to Sheamus on quality IMO... although one is hated and another is adored which I find bizarre.

CM Punk as said before people either cream or hate him, he's far from this messiah some make him out to be.

Kane - Just don't get it, people literally adore him on here and I can't fathom why.

Under - CM Punk see the over comment, it's the same coin on a different side.

Sheamus - See Ryback really a very good raw talent. They're more similar than people care to admit.

DZ - Great performer but not perfect like some cheesecakes think he is... yet anyway. Woops this should be in over so ill say Cenah.

Expecting to be slagged off to the hilt so leggo.

As far as Kane goes, he is good for his age. Kane has slow matches at times, but as far as big guys he's one of the best right now IMO, can't really see anyone that tops him.

By Under do you mean undertaker? If so then it's the same argument with age. The guy is like jurassic, but he can still put on a high quality match. He can't pull of some of the moves, but his matches are better than most of the matches younger guys have. Very rarely will you ever see a bad undertaker match.

 

[seabs]

Under is underrated lol, really couldn't be bothered typing the word out. As for Kane, he's Mr Average and always has been but I've heard him called great a few times on here and never gotten why.

 

[RadicalOneO]

Overrated - Ziggs - It doesn't bother me he's overrated, but his character will be exposed once he hits main event and stays there. His character has no depth, so building WM angles around him will be somewhat redundant. He's a Show Off, but his ring psychology isn't there yet, making him a glorified mid-carder and a one-trick pony.

Overrated - CM Punk- I blame fans both IWC and marks alike. His greatest strength is being Phil Brooks, because Phil Brooks has a great concept of how to get his point across. As far CM Punk the performer, I urge all fans to get a dose of wrestling outside the mainstream.

Overrated - Wrestling fans - the money some of you people pay to see boggles me. The reason Cena is stale is to milk wrestling fans of every penny they have.


Underrated - Triple H - Not perfect, but can do everything. Anything you'd like to see, this guy can do it. There's quite a bit of bs, but far more good than most talents.

Underrated - Miz - *Sigh* I hate doing this, but its true. His passion is off the charts. His athleticism is so bad, his psychology will be better by default.

Underrated - John Cena - He's holding back waaay too much to be overrated. Once he turns heel, just watch. If you thought Hogan shocked you, Cena's quality of promo and match will delightfully surprise you. John Cena has been held back character wise, that's his biggest obstacle

 

[Leo C]

Triple H is a nice shout. He's so hated around the IWC people normally ignore the fact that he's actually talented.

 

[Zach]

Overrated:
Shaymoose
CM Punk
John China

Underrated:
Daniel Bryan
Tyson Kidd
Alex Riley