i repsect your post becuase its been wrote correctly and break down well. but i was never on jasmines side to begin with, i said in the other thread i thought it was sad what she had done. im saying i wouldnt have banned montana for what he did, whether he should have been punished alternatively is a diffrent matter. moneky styles was and i again will find the post if needs be willing members to create polls and post about doing something that would at least be frowned upon due to the rules and by doing so he cleverly bent the rules as he shouldn't be willing members on for his own benefit. he said somewhere in the big thread that he could say he did what the posters wanted.