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Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
EXCLUSIVE: Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige won’t produce any further Spider-Manfilms because of an inability by Disney and Sony Pictures to reach new terms that would have given the former a co-financing stake going forward. A dispute that has taken place over the past few months at the top of Disney and Sony has essentially nixed Feige, and the future involvement of Marvel from the Spider-Man universe, sources said.
This comes at a moment when the last two films Kevin Feige produced broke all-time records — Disney’s Avengers: Endgamebecame the highest grossing film of all time, and Spider-Man: Far From Home this week surpassed the James Bond film Skyfall to become the all time highest grossing film for Sony Pictures.

Sources said there are two more Spider-Man films in the works that are meant to have director Jon Watts and Tom Holland front and center, though Watts doesn’t have a deal for the next picture. Unless something dramatic happens, Feige won’t be the lead creative producer of those pictures.

There is a lot of webbing here, but it all comes down to money, and it’s easy to understand why both sides refused to give ground. Disney asked that future Spider-Man films be a 50/50 co-financing arrangement between the studios, and there were discussions that this might extend to other films in the Spider-Man universe. Sony turned that offer down flat, and I don’t believe they even came back to the table to figure out a compromise. Led by Tom Rothman and Tony Vinciquerra, Sony just simply didn’t want to share its biggest franchise. Sony proposed keeping the arrangement going under the current terms where Marvel receives in the range of 5% of first dollar gross, sources said. Disney refused. [UPDATE: Sony insiders counter that Rothman did offer compromises but Disney declined.]

Now, it’s easy to say that Feige has enough on his plate, especially after taking control of the X-Men universe in the Fox acquisition, including the Deadpool franchise, along with architecting the next phase of the Marvel superhero universe and building movies and shows for Disney +. But I’m told Feige loves Spider-Man, arguably the biggest superhero character in the Marvel canon. He would have continued if Disney and Sony could have reached new deal terms.

Essentially Sony has made a decision that is similar to saying, thank you, but we think we can win the championship without Michael Jordan. After all, Feige’s first decade at Marvel is largely unblemished and his consistency has been nothing short of historic: even George Lucas, Steven Spielberg and Peter Jackson haven’t seen everything turn into a hit, and so maybe only James Cameron has the success record that Feige has achieved. But Feige has done it all in the last 10 years, producing and overseeing 23 superheros, with not a flop in the bunch. They’ve all been number one openers that have collectively grossed $26.8 billion. Feige this year became the producer of the top grossing film ever for two studios — Sony and Disney — and he produced three of the top four highest grossing films this year in Avengers: Endgame, Captain Marvel and Spider-Man: Far From Home. This after scoring the first ever Best Picture Oscar nom for a superhero film last year with Black Panther. I can’t think of a Hollywood producer/executive who has done anything close to this.

And the launch of the new iteration of Spider-Man was done brilliantly with Marvel’s support and help. It has been a boon to both studios. Tom Holland’s character was introduced in the Joe & Anthony Russo-directed 2016 blockbuster Captain America: Civil War, the film that set up the two record breaking Avengers films. Sony’s first rebooted Spidey film, 2017’s Spider-Man: Homecoming, rode that Marvel wave and grossed $880 million worldwide, and then the webslinger was a key character in the two Avengers films, leading to the Spidey sequel that this week became Sony’s top grossing film ever.

Sources said Disney’s top brass for the past several months has sought new terms for Feige and the Marvel cross-pollination to continue. As the Spider-Man relationship grew, Feige and Sony Pictures chief Tom Rothman spoke about the possibility of a wider involvement in the Sony-controlled Spider-man universe, which contains 900 characters.

It is understandable that the fiscally shrewd Rothman would balk at giving up half of Sony’s biggest franchise to Marvel. After all, Marvel already owns the merchandising on Spider-Man. Does the Mouse really need half of the movie universe also? Sony so far has decided that as valuable as Feige is, Disney is asking too high a price.

Sources said that Sony reasoned that they will be fine, without Feige. The creative template has been set on the Spider-Man films, and Watt and Holland are in place along with Amy Pascal, who became producer with Feige after she exited the executive suite after presiding over the previous Spider-man iterations directed by Sam Raimi and Marc Webb as Sony Pictures chief. And sources note that Venom was a problem picture and far from the polished product that grossed $856 million worldwide, until Rothman himself spent a good long time in the editing room helping to get it there.

The Venom sequel is well underway with Andy Serkis directing Tom Hardy, and there is Morbius with Jared Leto, Kraven The Hunter, and another spinoff with the characters Silver Sable and Black Cat. And a Sinister Six film that got shelved. Sony, which once felt the ticking clock of generating a Spider-Man film every three or so years to prevent a rights reversion to Disney, now has plenty of pictures to make. And the studio also won the Best Animated Feature Oscar for Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse, a smash hit they made on their own.

No comment from Marvel/Disney, Feige or Sony Pictures.

:sodone:

This blows big time.
 

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I don't get it.
 

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I don't get it.
Sony wants co-financing credit and Marvel doesn't want to share it.

Sony owns the rights and has the power to end the relationship. Which I guess they are doing.
 

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Sony and Disney were unable to come to an agreement on new terms that would have given Feige and Marvel Studios a co-finance stake going forward.
 

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Sony wants co-financing credit and Marvel doesn't want to share it.

Sony owns the rights and has the power to end the relationship. Which I guess they are doing.

Yeah you’re right, I mixed it up when trying to explain it.
 

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Wait and see. :MJ:
 

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Well now I can watch Spider Man movies again since I don’t give any fucks about the rest of Marvel and the movies. Since Spidey was connected to those movies I never watched as I would’ve been lost probably.
 

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Well now I can watch Spider Man movies again since I don’t give any fucks about the rest of Marvel and the movies. Since Spidey was connected to those movies I never watched as I would’ve been lost probably.
As far as I know the next film will still feature Holland's Spider-Man, so you'd probably still need to go back and watch his two solo films.
 

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How does this affect the MCU with them trying to make Spider-Man their top babyface who is replacing Tony Stark?
 
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How does this affect the MCU with them trying to make Spider-Man their top babyface who is replacing Tony Stark?
If they can't renew the deal with Sony, as far as I'm aware he'll no longer be allowed in future MCU films.
 

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As far as I know the next film will still feature Holland's Spider-Man, so you'd probably still need to go back and watch his two solo films.

Do I need to really watch every single other thing in the MCU to know anything. I mean I might watch cause I mean, maybe some aren’t as bad as I think. I just know Spider-Man is all I cared about when it comes to heros.

Tho I have seen other Marvel stuff and they was good. But idk some hero’s maybe I don’t care for.

Fuck it. Next time I got weed I’ll just watch everything.


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If they can't renew the deal with Sony, as far as I'm aware he'll no longer be allowed in future MCU films.
Then who is the next one?

Will they try with someone new? Or they going to bring someone back from the Thanotude era?
 

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Do I need to really watch every single other thing in the MCU to know anything. I mean I might watch cause I mean, maybe some aren’t as bad as I think. I just know Spider-Man is all I cared about when it comes to heros.

Tho I have seen other Marvel stuff and they was good. But idk some hero’s maybe I don’t care for.

Fuck it. Next time I got weed I’ll just watch everything.


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The only films I'd say would impact his solo films is Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame. You don't need to see anything else.
 
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Do I need to really watch every single other thing in the MCU to know anything. I mean I might watch cause I mean, maybe some aren’t as bad as I think. I just know Spider-Man is all I cared about when it comes to heros.

Tho I have seen other Marvel stuff and they was good. But idk some hero’s maybe I don’t care for.

Fuck it. Next time I got weed I’ll just watch everything.


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Hope you got enough weed for 3 days of binge watching.
 
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The only films I'd say would impact his solo films is Civil War, Infinity War and Endgame. You don't need to see anything else.

I might still watch everything because I just wanna make sure I’m fully up on eh everything as I’ll hate being confused. Even when it comes to other crap in it.