PeepShow
Guest
thats why WWE> TNA. sorry TNA fans
ROFLMAO, once again, no reasons.
*Cough** WWE Sheep *Cough**
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ROFLMAO, once again, no reasons.
*Cough** WWE Sheep *Cough**
Great One
Guest
Haha, time to see TNA fans bitch.
And there is really nothing wrong with saying WWE > TNA because it's completely true. TNA has nothing that is greater than WWE, and that, is a fact.
And there is really nothing wrong with saying WWE > TNA because it's completely true. TNA has nothing that is greater than WWE, and that, is a fact.
PeepShow
Guest
^1. PPV match quality
2. 2 entrances for faces/heels
3. Better promos
4. Better Roster
5. More unpredictable.
6. More credible Champions
2. 2 entrances for faces/heels
3. Better promos
4. Better Roster
5. More unpredictable.
6. More credible Champions
^1. PPV match quality , hmm, yeah... but TNA often offers crap too recently
2. 2 entrances for faces/heels, this doesn't makes them better...
3. Better promos, roflmao...cut christian and angle and that's the end of promos in tna
4. Better Roster, half of tna roster could be fired, 3d,vkm,steiners,test,matt morgan and so on; also the top tna guys(angle,Cage,aj r not as good as wwe top guys, even without counting cena)
5. More unpredictable., it was... now u can easily predict everything like in wwe
6. More credible Champions , someway it was, before Angle-Joe started, putting everything on both,then on Angle sucks, yes he is credible,but sucks
*laughing at all TNA/JOE marks* u'll see your guy jobbing to Cena
2. 2 entrances for faces/heels, this doesn't makes them better...
3. Better promos, roflmao...cut christian and angle and that's the end of promos in tna
4. Better Roster, half of tna roster could be fired, 3d,vkm,steiners,test,matt morgan and so on; also the top tna guys(angle,Cage,aj r not as good as wwe top guys, even without counting cena)
5. More unpredictable., it was... now u can easily predict everything like in wwe
6. More credible Champions , someway it was, before Angle-Joe started, putting everything on both,then on Angle sucks, yes he is credible,but sucks
*laughing at all TNA/JOE marks* u'll see your guy jobbing to Cena
Great One
Guest
1. Alright, I think this the only point you have the rest of all that was just crap and actually made me laugh. I agree the past WWE PPVs have been complete crap and TNA has been throwing around their gimmick matches, which is mainly the reason they were better PPVs but whatever, my response is simply WM ---> SS is pretty much shit WWE PPV wise. SS will be VERY good, better than all the other WWE PPVs since WM and they will keep getting better because you have Survivor Series and Royal Rumble then.
2. ZOMG MORE ENTRANCES DAMN TNA IS DEFINITELY BETTER, WAIT WWE HAS MORE PYROS SO THAT OVERRULES THAT POINT. Seriously, was this a joke? I hope so.
3. ROFL? BETTER PROMOS? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. Kurt Angle, Christian Cage, and maybe Sting are the only main event wrestlers (Jeff Jarrett also when he returns,) who can cut a fucking EXCELLENT promo in that promotion. You can throw in the Steiners, Dudleys, VKM, etc. the tag team guys, but the WWE has their fair share of the same which I could name but I won't (cough D&D and Cryme Tyme).
Let's look at WWE who has the best mic workers OF ALL TIME: Ric Flair, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Mr. Kennedy, M V FUCKING P, EDGE, William Regal, Kane, Carlito, CM Punk, John Morrison, Elijah Burke, Randy Orton, John Cena, fuck I can go on and on it's just a joke and you have lost a big portion of your credibility from me for making that sort of ridiculous, biased, and ignorant statement, sorry.
4) Lol... better roster? How is this being judged, are we considering the fact that TNA has over loaded their roster with more wrestlers then they can contain and handle, which therefore WWE would take that win. Or overall talent which is impossible to judge, but I guess if we want to call that garbage that people like Senshi and Sonjay Dutt do wrestling? It's a complete fucking spit in the face to the art of professional wrestling when you jump around like a god damn monkey, something even I could do, with absolutely 0 psychology. Sure there's a lot of guys that can wrestle as well such as Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley, Kurt Angle, etc. But if we're talking about straight up technical and chain wrestling, look no further then Shelton Benjamin, William Regal, CM Punk, etc.
5. .....................Didn't the entire IWC explode and bitch when the most predictable event just occured at a TNA PPV in perhaps the biggest main event match of all time for TNA... something the WWE had already done as well, oh right, sounded pretty predictable to me. Also, just last Thursday, the most stupidly predictable thing that you knew was going to happen were the Dudley's "reface turn" when obviously they were going to interfere and win it for Angle. Wait, hold on PeePShow, I wonder who's going to possibly win the next big main event match at the next PPV Kurt Angle vs. Abyss, DAMN THIS IS TOUGH, ABYSS COULD DEFINITELY PULL IT OFF EXCEPT THE FACT THAT THE GUY WHO'S BEEN BUILT UP FOR MONTHS TO DEBUT WILL INTERFERE AND COST HIM THE MATCH AND THE FACT THAT ANGLE VS. JARRETT IS SET FOR BFG SO ANGLE ISN'T LOSING IT ANYTIME SOON, AND THE FACT THAT ANGLE IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL GET TNA ANY EXPOSURE AT ALL SO HE WON'T BE LOSING THE TITLE FOR A LONG TIME. Kurt Angle is being booked as John Cena you and the other TNA sheep jan't see when you constantly bash the Cena booking in the WWE, you have the same thing, and he's going to hold the title for a very long time, and that is fucking predictable.
Can you tell me accurately who is going to win, John Cena or Randy Orton?
6. Yeah, a Triple H rip off gimmick is more credibile than a 8 ft tall giant and a guy who hasn't even lost 20 times and has won over 100 matches in his career while holding the title on and off for 2-3 years straight. This is so stupid it can't even be scaled (along with your other points), it's completely kayfabe based.
As for the topic, I think if this is even a credibile source, I would laugh at Joe for bitching like a girl when he should be thankful he got to be in such a high class feud with one of the greatest of all time and recieved that much exposure, because his fat ass won't be getting it probably anytime soon again, especially if he goes to WWE.
2. ZOMG MORE ENTRANCES DAMN TNA IS DEFINITELY BETTER, WAIT WWE HAS MORE PYROS SO THAT OVERRULES THAT POINT. Seriously, was this a joke? I hope so.
3. ROFL? BETTER PROMOS? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. Kurt Angle, Christian Cage, and maybe Sting are the only main event wrestlers (Jeff Jarrett also when he returns,) who can cut a fucking EXCELLENT promo in that promotion. You can throw in the Steiners, Dudleys, VKM, etc. the tag team guys, but the WWE has their fair share of the same which I could name but I won't (cough D&D and Cryme Tyme).
Let's look at WWE who has the best mic workers OF ALL TIME: Ric Flair, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Mr. Kennedy, M V FUCKING P, EDGE, William Regal, Kane, Carlito, CM Punk, John Morrison, Elijah Burke, Randy Orton, John Cena, fuck I can go on and on it's just a joke and you have lost a big portion of your credibility from me for making that sort of ridiculous, biased, and ignorant statement, sorry.
4) Lol... better roster? How is this being judged, are we considering the fact that TNA has over loaded their roster with more wrestlers then they can contain and handle, which therefore WWE would take that win. Or overall talent which is impossible to judge, but I guess if we want to call that garbage that people like Senshi and Sonjay Dutt do wrestling? It's a complete fucking spit in the face to the art of professional wrestling when you jump around like a god damn monkey, something even I could do, with absolutely 0 psychology. Sure there's a lot of guys that can wrestle as well such as Chris Sabin, Alex Shelley, Kurt Angle, etc. But if we're talking about straight up technical and chain wrestling, look no further then Shelton Benjamin, William Regal, CM Punk, etc.
5. .....................Didn't the entire IWC explode and bitch when the most predictable event just occured at a TNA PPV in perhaps the biggest main event match of all time for TNA... something the WWE had already done as well, oh right, sounded pretty predictable to me. Also, just last Thursday, the most stupidly predictable thing that you knew was going to happen were the Dudley's "reface turn" when obviously they were going to interfere and win it for Angle. Wait, hold on PeePShow, I wonder who's going to possibly win the next big main event match at the next PPV Kurt Angle vs. Abyss, DAMN THIS IS TOUGH, ABYSS COULD DEFINITELY PULL IT OFF EXCEPT THE FACT THAT THE GUY WHO'S BEEN BUILT UP FOR MONTHS TO DEBUT WILL INTERFERE AND COST HIM THE MATCH AND THE FACT THAT ANGLE VS. JARRETT IS SET FOR BFG SO ANGLE ISN'T LOSING IT ANYTIME SOON, AND THE FACT THAT ANGLE IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL GET TNA ANY EXPOSURE AT ALL SO HE WON'T BE LOSING THE TITLE FOR A LONG TIME. Kurt Angle is being booked as John Cena you and the other TNA sheep jan't see when you constantly bash the Cena booking in the WWE, you have the same thing, and he's going to hold the title for a very long time, and that is fucking predictable.
Can you tell me accurately who is going to win, John Cena or Randy Orton?
6. Yeah, a Triple H rip off gimmick is more credibile than a 8 ft tall giant and a guy who hasn't even lost 20 times and has won over 100 matches in his career while holding the title on and off for 2-3 years straight. This is so stupid it can't even be scaled (along with your other points), it's completely kayfabe based.
As for the topic, I think if this is even a credibile source, I would laugh at Joe for bitching like a girl when he should be thankful he got to be in such a high class feud with one of the greatest of all time and recieved that much exposure, because his fat ass won't be getting it probably anytime soon again, especially if he goes to WWE.
Montana
Guest
i know they both responded to it, but seriously, your #2 reasoning why tna is better because it has two entrances? You have got to be the only wrestling fan to care about that. 99% of people that watch know its fake. When they were in detroit for bound for glory they only had one too.
As far as more credible champs, JOhn Cena has ruled the wrestling world for like 3 years. He beat angle twice i do believe. Hell, the tna belt has only been around for a couple months. There really isnt a mid card champ, or tag champs, so i dont know know angle is credible.
Read The great ones response again, cause that kinda sums up how i feel.
As far as more credible champs, JOhn Cena has ruled the wrestling world for like 3 years. He beat angle twice i do believe. Hell, the tna belt has only been around for a couple months. There really isnt a mid card champ, or tag champs, so i dont know know angle is credible.
Read The great ones response again, cause that kinda sums up how i feel.
PeepShow
Guest
2. ZOMG MORE ENTRANCES DAMN TNA IS DEFINITELY BETTER, WAIT WWE HAS MORE PYROS SO THAT OVERRULES THAT POINT. Seriously, was this a joke? I hope so.
3. ROFL? BETTER PROMOS? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. Kurt Angle, Christian Cage, and maybe Sting are the only main event wrestlers (Jeff Jarrett also when he returns,) who can cut a fucking EXCELLENT promo in that promotion. You can throw in the Steiners, Dudleys, VKM, etc. the tag team guys, but the WWE has their fair share of the same which I could name but I won't (cough D&D and Cryme Tyme).
Let's look at WWE who has the best mic workers OF ALL TIME: Ric Flair, Triple H, Shawn Michaels, Mr. Kennedy, M V FUCKING P, EDGE, William Regal, Kane, Carlito, CM Punk, John Morrison, Elijah Burke, Randy Orton, John Cena, fuck I can go on and on it's just a joke and you have lost a big portion of your credibility from me for making that sort of ridiculous, biased, and ignorant statement, sorry.
5. .....................Didn't the entire IWC explode and bitch when the most predictable event just occured at a TNA PPV in perhaps the biggest main event match of all time for TNA... something the WWE had already done as well, oh right, sounded pretty predictable to me. Also, just last Thursday, the most stupidly predictable thing that you knew was going to happen were the Dudley's "reface turn" when obviously they were going to interfere and win it for Angle. Wait, hold on PeePShow, I wonder who's going to possibly win the next big main event match at the next PPV Kurt Angle vs. Abyss, DAMN THIS IS TOUGH, ABYSS COULD DEFINITELY PULL IT OFF EXCEPT THE FACT THAT THE GUY WHO'S BEEN BUILT UP FOR MONTHS TO DEBUT WILL INTERFERE AND COST HIM THE MATCH AND THE FACT THAT ANGLE VS. JARRETT IS SET FOR BFG SO ANGLE ISN'T LOSING IT ANYTIME SOON, AND THE FACT THAT ANGLE IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL GET TNA ANY EXPOSURE AT ALL SO HE WON'T BE LOSING THE TITLE FOR A LONG TIME. Kurt Angle is being booked as John Cena you and the other TNA sheep jan't see when you constantly bash the Cena booking in the WWE, you have the same thing, and he's going to hold the title for a very long time, and that is fucking predictable.
Can you tell me accurately who is going to win, John Cena or Randy Orton?
As for the topic, I think if this is even a credibile source, I would laugh at Joe for bitching like a girl when he should be thankful he got to be in such a high class feud with one of the greatest of all time and recieved that much exposure, because his fat ass won't be getting it probably anytime soon again, especially if he goes to WWE.
Now this one, I completely agree with.
2. Umm so you watch WWE b/c of the pyro? I hope not. I hope that was a joke. Who comes out of the same entrance as your fucking opponent? O thats right, WWE.
3. First all of, TNAs roster is a lot smaller than the WWEs. Second I cant believe you put D&D in that discussion. :roflmao:
Kane? Are you serious? LMAO. Burke? hes not that great either. Orton isnt the best, but is getting better. Like I said, you can name more guys, simply b/c thier roster is bigger, and they have a longer shjow in which to featuer them.
5. Ok, this was all in the last month and a half. Lets see, if I go back 2 yrs and look at my predictions from all the WWE PPVs, about 85% of them I got right. And just b.c 2 MEs in the last month and a half are just as predictable as a complete WWE PPV, your saying that TNA is predictable? ROFL, no furhter comment.
Randy Orton. Im so confident, that if Cena wins, Ill change my name to Cenamark55 or WWEMark for a little while if you all want me to.
Now this last paraghraph, I completely agree with.
Montana
Guest
Randy Orton. Im so confident, that if Cena wins, Ill change my name to Cenamark55 or WWEMark if you all want me to.
Now this last paraghraph, I completely agree with.
Well shall let peep have the last word, and perhaps Peep will get to eat his own words.
Back to the topic of Joe, I'd assume if he entered the wwe he'd be making over 300,000 year. Probably closer to 5. I'd expect a nice push right off the bat. I dont see him main eventing to start, but he will likely get a cm punk push. IF HE Does.
I wouldnt be shocked if ROH gets him back, and tries to work a deal. If there PPV buys stay up, ROH is going to have some money in there pocket.
PeepShow
Guest
no: Just sticking up for his WWE Sheeple till the end Soulpower
Guest
would laugh at Joe for bitching like a girl when he should be thankful he got to be in such a high class feud with one of the greatest of all time and recieved that much exposure,
That was some great exposure!! Being made to look like an IDIOT time and time again as Angle always ended the show with the advantage, wheter it was stealing a poin when Joe was on his team, putting him through a table to actually getting him to believe that his wife had "left him".
Again, its not just that Joe has lost... Its that he's been made to look like the dumbest guy in wrestling history (or maybe since Sting) over and over again.
That was some great exposure!! Being made to look like an IDIOT time and time again as Angle always ended the show with the advantage, wheter it was stealing a poin when Joe was on his team, putting him through a table to actually getting him to believe that his wife had "left him".
Again, its not just that Joe has lost... Its that he's been made to look like the dumbest guy in wrestling history (or maybe since Sting) over and over again.
Well... I was going to say something in response to Peepshow's ridiculous statement, but Great One has said it all. Rep to the Great One.
Back on the Joe statement, Samoa Joe will probably go to WWE when his contract runs out. And he was a believeable main event guy in TNA, so I figure WWE will do good with him. He doesn't need to go back to RoH because he's had his stint and it was awesome. Joe's in the limelight now and he's going to want to stay there.
You think for a second if Vince comes calling he'll say no? You're wrong.
Back on the Joe statement, Samoa Joe will probably go to WWE when his contract runs out. And he was a believeable main event guy in TNA, so I figure WWE will do good with him. He doesn't need to go back to RoH because he's had his stint and it was awesome. Joe's in the limelight now and he's going to want to stay there.
You think for a second if Vince comes calling he'll say no? You're wrong.
Peepshow, you really have to stop being such a subjective fool here. You aren't doing your agruements any favours.
As to Joe/WWE? I dunno. At this moment in time, he's kind of the right fit. If WWE are looking for big guys without steroid bodies that they can push and say "SEE!!!" Joe is a pretty good choice.
As to Joe/WWE? I dunno. At this moment in time, he's kind of the right fit. If WWE are looking for big guys without steroid bodies that they can push and say "SEE!!!" Joe is a pretty good choice.
PeepShow
Guest
Because you are looking at TNA from a biased point of view. I have not once said that WWE is better than TNA, because at the moment, in my opinion, both suck.
The thing is all your arguements are made from a point of what you personally prefer, and that's fine, if you like it better, great, but don't ignore the facts, and don't have such low expectations. Have some standards man. I know that WWE sucks right now, and you people want something better, and TNA is different, but different does not equal better.
Lets just take a look at your points and dissect them.
1. PPV match quality
Now that's just bullshit. Both companies have been putting out substandard ppv fare all year. All of the major wrestling sites that review the ppv's have condemned both companies, and the majority of the fan reactions (which you can read on the torch) have been strictly negative for both companies.
2. 2 entrances for faces/heels
You can't tell me this actually makes a difference. If entrances matter so much to you then GO's point about the pyro is very valid. It definetly adds something, but come on. Who cares what a guys entrance looks like or which tunnel he comes out from?
3. Better promos
This is the one case where I will give the edge to the WWE. The only guys on TNA who can actually cut an exciting promo are Angle (though his shtick is getting old awfully fast, Cage, who is almost always gold, and maybe Jeff Jarrett. Sting 10 years ago could be on that list, but not so much anymore. He's trying to play up the character so much that it no longer feels natural.
Now don't get me wrong, there are other guys on TNA who have charisma, but they can't cut a promo. There is a huge difference between the two.
4. Better Roster
This is all personal preference right here. The WWE has more established stars, but it doesn't matter who you have on your roster if they aren't delivering the goods on a consitant basis on screen.
5. More unpredictable.
Both companies suffer from a lack of predictability. All I have to say about thi sin TNA's regard is in their biggest angle of the past 2 or so months, the pay off with Karen actually being on Kurts side, was only unpredictable if you suffer from some sort of debilitating mental illness.
6. More credible Champions
Again, at this point in time I will have to give the edge to the E here two. TNA doesn't have credible world champions. They have one champion who hold all the belts, which are nothing more than props to get him further over. That's not necessary. It devalues the belts.
At least with Cena you have a guy who is putting over the title, he doesn't need it to be popular. I'm no fan of Cena's but he is definetly a stronger champion in teh manner in which he's been booked.
Still both companies suck right now. Equally.
The thing is all your arguements are made from a point of what you personally prefer, and that's fine, if you like it better, great, but don't ignore the facts, and don't have such low expectations. Have some standards man. I know that WWE sucks right now, and you people want something better, and TNA is different, but different does not equal better.
Lets just take a look at your points and dissect them.
1. PPV match quality
Now that's just bullshit. Both companies have been putting out substandard ppv fare all year. All of the major wrestling sites that review the ppv's have condemned both companies, and the majority of the fan reactions (which you can read on the torch) have been strictly negative for both companies.
2. 2 entrances for faces/heels
You can't tell me this actually makes a difference. If entrances matter so much to you then GO's point about the pyro is very valid. It definetly adds something, but come on. Who cares what a guys entrance looks like or which tunnel he comes out from?
3. Better promos
This is the one case where I will give the edge to the WWE. The only guys on TNA who can actually cut an exciting promo are Angle (though his shtick is getting old awfully fast, Cage, who is almost always gold, and maybe Jeff Jarrett. Sting 10 years ago could be on that list, but not so much anymore. He's trying to play up the character so much that it no longer feels natural.
Now don't get me wrong, there are other guys on TNA who have charisma, but they can't cut a promo. There is a huge difference between the two.
4. Better Roster
This is all personal preference right here. The WWE has more established stars, but it doesn't matter who you have on your roster if they aren't delivering the goods on a consitant basis on screen.
5. More unpredictable.
Both companies suffer from a lack of predictability. All I have to say about thi sin TNA's regard is in their biggest angle of the past 2 or so months, the pay off with Karen actually being on Kurts side, was only unpredictable if you suffer from some sort of debilitating mental illness.
6. More credible Champions
Again, at this point in time I will have to give the edge to the E here two. TNA doesn't have credible world champions. They have one champion who hold all the belts, which are nothing more than props to get him further over. That's not necessary. It devalues the belts.
At least with Cena you have a guy who is putting over the title, he doesn't need it to be popular. I'm no fan of Cena's but he is definetly a stronger champion in teh manner in which he's been booked.
Still both companies suck right now. Equally.