Raw Live Raw thread, July 20, 2020: Big Show vs Randy Orton in an Unsanctioned Match

[Vegeta]

I would love to be proven wrong, but I just don't see it.

 

[DammitC]

tbf Ziggler is still heel atm

 

[RDK]

I dont think it would be hard to get Kofi over. The formula is there and they've touched upon it a few times with ambrose and now drew. The problem is people like ambrose and drew . Use the same formula against a heel and people get behind him imk

 

[RDK]

To get dokph over i mean

 

[DammitC]

maybe when the crowds come back, they can put him a solid storyline where he organically turns babyface and the crowds get behind him

 

[DammitC]

and MAYBE gets that Kofi 2019 run with a world title

 

[RDK]

Its unlikely but it could happen. People like baby face drew and respect him for his longevity.

 

[DammitC]

I remember when Ziggler was like the most over wrestler in the company (early 2013 and late-2014)

 

[RDK]

Dolph I mean not srew lol

 

[DammitC]

usually in the top 3 (behind Punk and Bryan in most of 2013 then Bryan and Moxley in early 2015)

 

[DammitC]

yea, just hoping he gets that organic babyface turn in a good storyline at some point

 

[DammitC]

not counting those few weeks in late-2018 + 2019 rrumble match, Ziggler hasn't really been a babyface since January 2017

 

[Vegeta]

Y'all gonna get my hopes up just to have me crushed again in the future I will always go into any Dolph match from now on when its for a title, thinking he will lose. That way, I can't be let down.

 

[Jimmy King]

My man Mustafa Ali has returned

 

[Jimmy King]

I like this Hurt Business group a lot actually