Raw Live Raw thread, December 6th 2021: Liv aims to dethrone Big-Time Becks in Raw Women’s Title Match

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Yeah the issue wasn't that she cheated for me it was that it was the exact same finish again lmao same reason I bitched about the Young Bucks in AEW but i didn't see Deezy going to bat about how they were good heels for it :bosque
 

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Yeah the issue wasn't that she cheated for me it was that it was the exact same finish again lmao same reason I bitched about the Young Bucks in AEW but i didn't see Deezy going to bat about how they were good heels for it :bosque
no idea what the context is here, but hell even I was sick of the young bucks have the same fucking finish for like 2 months +. it was fucking lame lol
 

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oh i see what happened.

Yeah I mean this is probably also a WWE wide issue I've talked about before. They have this weird mentality that a million fucky finishes protect everyone involved. from my (and other ppls) POV it has the opposite effect of making all involved look weak/stupid, especially when it's the same fucky finish a few times in a row. For some reason, they are really afraid of having heels go over clean (its rare) or even faces going over clean without a slew of previous matches. its off.

hell even reading the spoilers, I'm not sure how strong Big E looks tonight either. Why is a face escaping the cage to win, that's more a heel thing to me (obviously debatable and opinion based, but I feel if the idea is for Big E to look strong, just have hit his finish?)
 

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Those bastards had me though, when they showed the video package for her and the way the match was going, I did actually think my prediction was coming true :bosque
 

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Chris Kringle said:
Yeah the issue wasn't that she cheated for me it was that it was the exact same finish again lmao same reason I bitched about the Young Bucks in AEW but i didn't see Deezy going to bat about how they were good heels for it :bosque
yes yes exactly this! Like they are other ways to cheat. Hell grab the fucking tights even :lol least that’s like different. It’s in the same like illegal pin type of shit, but like… a different kind, or do something else that’s illegal in a wrestling match if you got to go the cheating route.
 

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yes yes exactly this! Like they are other ways to cheat. Hell grab the fucking tights even :lol least that’s like different. It’s in the same like illegal pin type of shit, but like… a different kind, or do something else that’s illegal in a wrestling match if you got to go the cheating route.
I'm a big fan of the classic "use a dirty move to get out of the babyface's finisher that I cant kick out of" then hit your own finisher trope, for example. #nomoreschoolboyrollups
 

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Decent opening match. So far so good.

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Of course the girl that made a mad face after Liv’s loss is already being dubbed “Angry Liv Girl” and is going viral lmao
 

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Not a bad show last night tbh, I especially dug E vs KO, Doudrop vs Bianca, and Becky vs Liv and had no real issue with the finish to the main.
 

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Becky and Big E losing people.....you hate to see it 8D