List it! Who can legit beat the living crap out of CM PUNK!

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Kill Steen Kill said:
Punk would fold Henry inside out imo, especially with his history of knee injuries. Show would be a better bet because I believe he has some boxing training so with his size and that big right hand.

I doubt it. There is a huge difference between a guy like Punk who has trained some Jits/Muay Thai and the guys who are legitimate badasses in those disciplines. Does anyone know what rank Punk is in either art? Has he ever competed in Jits or Muay Thai competitions? I don't think he would rank higher than a white or blue belt. Guys like that won't be able to compensate for a 200+ pound size difference. But there are so many factors in a Punk vs _____ hypothetical shoot fight. What is Punk's chin like? Takedown defense? Punk's Jiu Jitsu would be all but useless if a close to 400 lb guy like Henry was laying on top of him I'm guessing.
 

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Ziggles said:
Everyone has "fighting" backgrounds such as Punk with his "Muay Thai" background, I don't really understand why they make him look so tough, I mean we don't really know him do we? Weird that I've never known that, by the way where have you collected all of this?

I'm saying this like out of character and not just because of him being my favorite wrestler, but I think Punk is one of the toughest wrestlers in the WWE.

Just found it around the net tbh, here is a report about his eye injury
and a bit about his training at Randy Couture's gym a few other people's opinion on Danielson in MMA , probably means nothing but still

I always thought Punk's muay thai was kayfabe also?

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I doubt it. There is a huge difference between a guy like Punk who has trained some Jits/Muay Thai and the guys who are legitimate badasses in those disciplines. Does anyone know what rank Punk is in either art? Has he ever competed in Jits or Muay Thai competitions? I don't think he would rank higher than a white or blue belt. Guys like that won't be able to compensate for a 200+ pound size difference. But there are so many factors in a Punk vs _____ hypothetical shoot fight. What is Punk's chin like? Takedown defense? Punk's Jiu Jitsu would be all but useless if a close to 400 lb guy like Henry was laying on top of him I'm guessing.

Not sure on how advanced he is tbh, just know he has the background. If Henry got on top I doubt many could stop him tbh, even Brock with how uncomfortable he seemed on his back but as you say he'd have to get them down which when you factor in speed and endurance I'm not sure Henry could. As you rightfully say it's complete speculation but I couldn't see him getting Punk to the ground bar in the first few moments with a big surge of power.
 

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I would guess it was kayfabe, because honestly most of the kicks he throws look like shit. Anyone have any clue what his BJJ rank is? White belt I'm guessing?

Also Amateur wrestling is just as much a part of a shoot fight as BJJ or 'muay thai' so I wouldn't rule out guys with those backgrounds in a fight with Punk either. I'd also take William Regal to whoop Punk's ass, even at his advanced age.
 

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Wasn't Dolph a very strong amateur wrestler at one point also? I agree with Regal, he trained in the catch style of wrestling which isn't very used now a days, another guess would be Kane as I think he had some semi shoots in Japan in his younger days and apparently could take one of the biggest beatings.
 

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Wade Barrett > Roster.

But now that he has a weak spot after that injury, I guess not.
 

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Kill Steen Kill said:
Wasn't Dolph a very strong amateur wrestler at one point also? I agree with Regal, he trained in the catch style of wrestling which isn't very used now a days, another guess would be Kane as I think he had some semi shoots in Japan in his younger days and apparently could take one of the biggest beatings.

Dolph was a 3 time all conference wrestler & 3 time conference tournament champion + set the school record for most wins in a career. Not sure how prestigious the MAC is in wrestling, but he was obviously a very talented amateur wrestler.

And yea, catch wrestling is no joke. Josh Barnett (one of the top 5 HW MMA fighters in the world IMO, has been around since the 90s and has fought a who's who's list of top HW fighters in his career) has a background in 'catch wrestling' and I recently saw him on a show and someone asked him to describe what catch wrestling was. It's basically MMA but without striking. You are grappling, getting guys to the ground, and as he put it 'grabbing ahold of whatever you can and trying to rip it off, take it home, and put it on a mantle'

Catch wrestling is no joke
 

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Everyone who can throw a quick knock out punch will beat Punk.

Del Rio would be on the list too, he did MMA.
 

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How could I forget my man Del Rio??? He would manhandle Punk.
 

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I love this thread!

Take that sandy ravage!


#darksidegames
 

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Del Rio is a very accomplished Greco-Roman wrestler and a helluva lot bigger than Punk. He would be rag dolling his ass lmao.
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Del Rio is a very accomplished Greco-Roman wrestler and a helluva lot bigger than Punk. He would be rag dolling his ass lmao.

Agreed, Punk ain't shit vs Alberto.
 

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Bryan, Swagger (All american wrestler and a hell of a lot bigger.) Lesnar, the obvious choices.