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Lol show me more videos, since Mania 30 where Brock isn’t really a badass, he just teases and has fun for himself? Even if you can show something, it’s beyond few and far between. Brock’s character has been built a nothing more than a heartless badass who only cares about kicking ass and taking the title, period.
How about basically every match he's had since then? Brock nearly always finds time in his matches to taunt or say something goofy to his opponents or the crowd or whoever whenever he's being dominant beast bully. How many more times does Brock flash that ridiculous grin when he's enjoying the humiliation or beat down of his opponent?

If anything, Brock is like a cat (not one goddamn word, Snake). During his matches he dominates 90% of the time. And a lot of that time is spent stalling, stalking his prey and toying with them so to speak, getting enjoyment out of giving them false hope only to take it away moments later. In essence, he's doing the same thing now with the briefcase. He knows he can have whichever title he wants, at any time he wants. But he chooses to toy with them instead, and is gleefully enjoying every second of it until he finally gets bored and cashes in, most likely taking what he feels is his to begin with
 

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How about basically every match he's had since then? Brock nearly always finds time in his matches to taunt or say something goofy to his opponents or the crowd or whoever whenever he's being dominant beast bully. How many more times does Brock flash that ridiculous grin when he's enjoying the humiliation or beat down of his opponent?

If anything, Brock is like a cat (not one goddamn word, Snake). During his matches he dominates 90% of the time. And a lot of that time is spent stalling, stalking his prey and toying with them so to speak, getting enjoyment out of giving them false hope only to take it away moments later. In essence, he's doing the same thing now with the briefcase. He knows he can have whichever title he wants, at any time he wants. But he chooses to toy with them instead, and is gleefully enjoying every second of it until he finally gets bored and cashes in, most likely taking what he feels is his to begin with
I don’t think him literally beat boxing and dancing like an idiot is anywhere near the same as giving a grin or crazy yell in the midst of tossing on their head.... it’s not the same thing at all. Him dominating someone and showing dominance in the midst of the match by smiling and showing he’s enjoying the beat down is a badass move, not him goofing off.

What he did on Raw was goof off and just fuck around merely to taunt Rollins with 0 physical intimidation. I’m saying that in no way has been Brock’s character.

You’re comparing apples and oranges man. Again, show me a clip of Brock doing anything like he did on Raw where he used 0 physical intimidation and simply acted in a similar “taunting” manor. I don’t think you can.

And I’m not against doing something like this, really, or a mild change up of character, it’s just that nothing was explained or story wise driven for it. He just came out dancing like a literal idiot to show “Brock does what he wants...” even if it’s completely out of character and makes no sense.

Oh, and when Brock says “suplex city bitch”
or yells and swears at his opponents during a match, I don’t think the crowd or fans are thinking... “what a goofy guy...” they’re thinking, “that’s the baddest guy on the planet.” Again, he’s out of character on this one and for that it was stupid and inconsistent.
 

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I honestly don't know how you guys do it...

3 hours of repetitive, poorly written, 50/50 booked tripe.

NXT works because less is more...1 hour a week and
a TakeOver once every 3 to 4 months.

Every match...Hell every minute of NXT means something.

On the main roster...well...it just goes on & on & on & on...

I actually couldn't bring myself to watch MitB...even with
the promise of Styles & Rollins putting on a classic...and
when I finally looked up the results...I see Broke Le$nar
won the men's MitB...which is completely Blue IMO
& Bayley won the women's...only to cash in on the same
night.

Bayley...the woman who wouldn't use a kendo stick in
a kendo stick match, was pinned by Lana in the MMC &
was pinned cleanly in 4 minutes by Alexa Bliss the night
after Wrestlemania.

Bayley being a Champion now is just the WWE's way of
giving Sasha Banks the middle finger. Give it 2 months &
I guarantee they will put that belt back on Charlotte...which
is their default booking at this point...and its pathetic.

So Bayley is the SDL women's champion & Le$nar has a
MitB briefcase...

Talk about the most unfunny pair of jokes I've heard in
a long time.

I'm looking forward to FINALLY seeing Double or Nothing
this weekend. Apparently it was great...and worth my time
to watch.

Like I know this is a wrestling forum populated by WWE fans...
but I have to be the one to break this to you all.

Are you ready?

Okay.

You have all been conditioned to be entertained by shit...so much
so that you don't even realize that you are watching shit.

Its shit.

ALL wrestling fans deserve better than shit.
 
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I honestly don't know how you guys do it...

3 hours of repetitive, poorly written, 50/50 booked tripe.

NXT works because less is more...1 hour a week and
a TakeOver once every 3 to 4 months.

Every match...Hell every minute of NXT means something.

On the main roster...well...it just goes on & on & on & on...

I actually couldn't bring myself to watch MitB...even with
the promise of Styles & Rollins putting on a classic...and
when I finally looked up the results...I see Broke Le$nar
won the men's MitB...which is completely Blue IMO
& Bayley won the women's...only to cash in on the same
night.

Bayley...the woman who wouldn't use a kendo stick in
a kendo stick match, was pinned by Lana in the MMC &
was pinned cleanly in 4 minutes by Alexa Bliss the night
after Wrestlemania.

Bayley being a Champion now is just the WWE's way of
giving Sasha Banks the middle finger. Give it 2 months &
I guarantee they will put that belt back on Charlotte...which
is their default booking at this point...and its pathetic.

So Bayley is the SDL women's champion & Le$nar has a
MitB briefcase...

Talk about the most unfunny pair of jokes I've heard in
a long time.

I'm looking forward to FINALLY seeing Double or Nothing
this weekend. Apparently it was great...and worth my time
to watch.

Like I know this is a wrestling forum populated by WWE fans...
but I have to be the one to break this to you all.

Are you ready?

Okay.

You have all been conditioned to be entertained by shit...so much
so that you don't even realize that you are watching shit.

Its shit.

ALL wrestling fans deserve better than shit.
I realize that I’m watching shit. I realize lots of shit that I still do. For example, I stay married. There’s a lot of shit to deal with sometimes, especially when you have kids, but there’s moments that make it worthwhile and enduring.

The point is that liking or hating the WWE is subjective and the only thing I will say is that I get why people watch it, because love it or hate it, it’s the only consistently decent wrestling/entertainment gig out there.
 

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I honestly don't know how you guys do it...

3 hours of repetitive, poorly written, 50/50 booked tripe.

NXT works because less is more...1 hour a week and
a TakeOver once every 3 to 4 months.

Every match...Hell every minute of NXT means something.

On the main roster...well...it just goes on & on & on & on...

I actually couldn't bring myself to watch MitB...even with
the promise of Styles & Rollins putting on a classic...and
when I finally looked up the results...I see Broke Le$nar
won the men's MitB...which is completely Blue IMO
& Bayley won the women's...only to cash in on the same
night.

Bayley...the woman who wouldn't use a kendo stick in
a kendo stick match, was pinned by Lana in the MMC &
was pinned cleanly in 4 minutes by Alexa Bliss the night
after Wrestlemania.

Bayley being a Champion now is just the WWE's way of
giving Sasha Banks the middle finger. Give it 2 months &
I guarantee they will put that belt back on Charlotte...which
is their default booking at this point...and its pathetic.

So Bayley is the SDL women's champion & Le$nar has a
MitB briefcase...

Talk about the most unfunny pair of jokes I've heard in
a long time.

I'm looking forward to FINALLY seeing Double or Nothing
this weekend. Apparently it was great...and worth my time
to watch.

Like I know this is a wrestling forum populated by WWE fans...
but I have to be the one to break this to you all.

Are you ready?

Okay.

You have all been conditioned to be entertained by shit...so much
so that you don't even realize that you are watching shit.

Its shit.

ALL wrestling fans deserve better than shit.

*nods* Lets be positive for a minute... I like the Bayley thing.

Sure it comes a month or so after she got squashed by fucking Alexa Bliss, but this is largely what MITB is for.
I liked how Charlotte enlisted Diet Charlotte as a lackey, and in a weird main roster way I like the idea of the blondes teaming up to those "beneath them". But mainly, I like them making Becky look hella strong, dispatching one opponent before fighting back against the toughest opponent on the roster...

I think it's mostly a case of loving watching Charlotte fight back against Becky after a fluke roll-up, then easily dispatching Bayley as a non-threat before going right back after Becky. Which... for the most part worked for Charlotte. She's naturally superior to fangirl-ass Bayley and Bayley doesn't have the lady balls to do anything about it. She was afraid to use a kendo stick, why would cash in on a wounded duck? She wouldn't do that, would she?

I couldn't believe they could stay true to characters, plus everyone loved the moment and somehow Bayley felt like a big deal again.