Lesnar vs. Orton Match Discussed

[Darth Shizzel]

Match between these two would be great everything else though not so much.

 

[The Cork]

I don't know how any of you can slag off Brock's promo then suck off guys like Cody Rhodes and such. I guess because he doesn't talk in a monotone, drab voice like a Blue robot (Jericho, Cody, Danielson, I'm looking at you) he isn't considered mic greatness huh.

His dickish character since coming back has been pretty fucking good, tbh.

Also, Orton barely talks at all anymore, why are people still holding some sort of grudge against the guy for previous horrible promos as if he can't ever possibly improve.....

 

[Blujay]

I don't know how any of you can slag off Brock's promo then suck off guys like Cody Rhodes and such. I guess because he doesn't talk in a monotone, drab voice like a Blue robot (Jericho, Cody, Danielson, I'm looking at you) he isn't considered mic greatness huh.

His dickish character since coming back has been pretty fucking good, tbh.

Also, Orton barely talks at all anymore, why are people still holding some sort of grudge against the guy for previous horrible promos as if he can't ever possibly improve.....

It appears that the only one sucking anyone off, metaphorically of course, is you. With THIS character, Orton is terrible when it comes to promos. There is no flare to what he says. When he had the Legend Killer gimmick, hell even during his Age of Orton era he showed charisma. Granted the well he was dipping in was shallow at best it was still leaps and bounds better than whatever the fuck he's supposed to be now. Brock's promo on Monday was drawn out and awkward. He fumbled over words and made obvious grammar errors that just make you cringe. The crowd was "What" chanting at him for fuck's sake. Neither man has ever been good at promos. The structure, the delivery, the execution, the emotion, etc. Danielson has never been gold at promos either. Cody is getting there. He's actually played various characters. He showed flare in the Dashing gimmick, no matter how debatable the good or bad of that gimmick was. Jericho's current persona has more flare than Jeri-suit did. But even then, I'm not harping on the monotony of the voices Orton and Lesnar have. Its the flow and natural feeling that comes with it. Neither guy has ever had that "natural" edge on the mic which is why we don't want to hear the fucking promos from them. We're more interested in the match, as we should be. The build, as I said, should be physical and NOT rely on their weakness IE, their damned mic work.

 

[AF.]

Wonder how Orton will react when Brock fucks him up legitimately.

 

[Prodigy]

If Orton and Brock feud, I don't see Orton taking bumps like Cena did, and to be honest I don't think he'd be able to take them as well as Cena did. It will be a Wrestling match rather then brawl like it was with Cena.

 

[We Are Legion]

Then you might as well kill the company Troy, because if Lesnar is only there for a year and he fucks over the likes of Punk before leaving then WWE will be right back where the started. Besides just because Lesnar is the biggest draw does not mean he should win every match. In Pro Wrestling winning or losing are not the be all or end or, if it is booked in the correct way fans can buy it. For example you could say Brock might be ring rusty having been away eight years. WWE and UFC are different, different audiences, different concepts.

I still think if they offered Lesnar a Triple H style deal where he only wrestles three or four big matches a year, and made the odd raw show then he might be tempted to sign long term. Don't get me wrong I am pleased he is back, but lets not get ahead of ourselves, this could still back fire on WWE.

This is a very good point.

Lesnar's "I'm all about me" schtick goes much further than his current WWE persona.

 

[Deezy]

Wins and losses don't mean shit when you are a bonafide maineventer.

Cena and Orton could lose to Hornswoggle and still be over with the crowd. So losing to Lesnar wouldn't be that big of a deal, especially if you lost and put up a good fight with a guy who was a former UFC Heavyweight champion.

 

[Heisenberg]

Orton/Lesnar Scrapped
The reported possibility of Randy Orton versus Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam has been taken off the table according to F4Wonline.com. WWE is said to be set on Triple H and Brock Lesnar getting in the ring at SummerSlam and that Orton as a possible opponent has recently become considerably less popular among WWE officials.

I don't think Orton v Lesnar at SummerSlam would of been that big of a match and the build would of been shotty. Both guys aren't excellent on the mic but decent. Triple H vs Lesnar would be much better as HHH can carry a lot of the mic work with some input by Brock in the promos but also some help from Heyman.

 

[Dale]

HHH to derail Brock's momentum no doubt.

 

[Deezy]

HHH to derail Brock's momentum no doubt.

Trips to finally get that one win he couldn't get in 03.