Kurt Angle Wants To Return To WWE

[Red Rain]

I'm not saying Vince never made some mistakes in the past and even the present.....He "refuses" because wrestlers are contractors.....it's like this with tons of contracting jobs....granted, you can say he could make it easier for them and, sure, he could do that....but it would cost a crap load more $ for WWE.... then they'd have to make cuts elsewhere, etc. It's business.

I'm sure there's some wrestlers who feel Vince is a great guy to work and for....so it goes both ways...

Also, even if Vince does "not care" about his employees, it doesn't justify him throwing Angle into a match when he feels his time for competitive sports is over.....

This again. Wrestlers are independent contractors? Really?
If they were independent contractors, they wouldn't be forced to promote WWE house shows in their off time, would they?
If they were independent contractors, they would be free to pursue music, acting and any other media without fear of reprimand.
The Empire are slave drivers and control how you tweet and what you post on your youtube, They control your image as well.
It isn't like tons of contracting jobs, at all. I doubt they actually believe Vince is a great guy to work for, unless they are f'ing puppets.
Look at ZIggs and Orton and tell me Vince is a fair and just man. Vince is a dou*** who cares about business on not the workers busting their a**

 

[Senhor Perfect]

This again. Wrestlers are independent contractors? Really?
If they were independent contractors, they wouldn't be forced to promote WWE house shows in their off time, would they?
If they were independent contractors, they would be free to pursue music, acting and any other media without fear of reprimand.
The Empire are slave drivers and control how you tweet and what you post on your youtube, They control your image as well.
It isn't like tons of contracting jobs, at all. I doubt they actually believe Vince is a great guy to work for, unless they are f'ing puppets.
Look at ZIggs and Orton and tell me Vince is a fair and just man. Vince is a dou*** who cares about business on not the workers busting their a**

Like every other owner of every other corporation.

 

[Red Rain]

Like every other owner of every other corporation.

Respect points for not being a noob.
I would throw in the tidbit that Vince's employees are willingly and deliberately maiming themselves, but that's obvious.
The key work is 'willingly'. This discussion opens another can of worms in and of itself, which has nothing to do with wrestling.

I wouldn't be taken back by whatever takes place. Angle's health is hardly an issue.

 

[edge4ever]

This again. Wrestlers are independent contractors? Really?
If they were independent contractors, they wouldn't be forced to promote WWE house shows in their off time, would they?
If they were independent contractors, they would be free to pursue music, acting and any other media without fear of reprimand.
The Empire are slave drivers and control how you tweet and what you post on your youtube, They control your image as well.
It isn't like tons of contracting jobs, at all. I doubt they actually believe Vince is a great guy to work for, unless they are f'ing puppets.
Look at ZIggs and Orton and tell me Vince is a fair and just man. Vince is a dou*** who cares about business on not the workers busting their a**

Regardless of what you're saying, they're still considered contractors and certain contracts have certain requirements....they all vary. And it is like most contracting jobs, with some modifications as wrestling isn't a common job.

Also, if it's such a slave driven company and Vince is truly evil....they can leave. As with any company. Finish your contract. Leave.

I'm not defending Vince, rather assuming some responsibility for wrestlers who sign their contracts, too. A lot of people love to work for WWE. Some don't.

Orton is treated very well. Ziggler isn't treated well but he's also cocky asshole, too. I love Ziggler but he has a big mouth and doesn't seem good at playing politics, which politics exist at every company.

 

[Red Rain]

Regardless of what you're saying, they're still considered contractors and certain contracts have certain requirements....they all vary. And it is like most contracting jobs, with some modifications as wrestling isn't a common job.

Also, if it's such a slave driven company and Vince is truly evil....they can leave. As with any company. Finish your contract. Leave.

I'm not defending Vince, rather assuming some responsibility for wrestlers who sign their contracts, too. A lot of people love to work for WWE. Some don't.

Orton is treated very well. Ziggler isn't treated well but he's also cocky asshole, too. I love Ziggler but he has a big mouth and doesn't seem good at playing politics, which politics exist at every company.

It very much sounds like you are defending Vince.

 

[Trip in the Head]

News on Angle: http://www.cagesideseats.com/2014/8...ck-lesnar-vs-roman-reigns-daniel-bryan-injury

• It was reported by Mark Madden that Kurt Angle outright called Triple H to inquire about a WWE return and Triple H blew him off. So Angle decided to call Vince McMahon, who told him Triple H is in charge of talent decisions now. This was a risky play on Angle's part because it pissed Triple H off that Angle would go over his head. It certainly doesn't look like he'll be coming back to WWE.

 

[Dolph'sZiggler]

HHH's ego finally becomes an issue. I realize they want to build new stars right now, but who better to help build up a new star than Angle?

dumbasses.

 

[edge4ever]

It very much sounds like you are defending Vince.

no just saying that it's a business and they all have their pro's and con's. I'm tired of people not taking responsibility for their contract and obligations to a company. This is not to say that a company can't be unfair at times and not have everything you'd like it to have. But if it was really that bad, superstars, especially veterans, wouldn't stick around.

 

[Senhor Perfect]

News on Angle: http://www.cagesideseats.com/2014/8...ck-lesnar-vs-roman-reigns-daniel-bryan-injury

Vince McMahon hugged Eric Bischoff on raw, the NAO won the tag titles last year. All things people said would never happen and did. Obligatory LOL dirt sheets.

 

[Trip in the Head]

Vince McMahon hugged Eric Bischoff on raw, the NAO won the tag titles last year. All things people said would never happen and did. Obligatory LOL dirt sheets.

So we just rely on word of mouth on here? There's got to be a line in the sand somewhere

 

[Senhor Perfect]

So we just rely on word of mouth on here? There's got to be a line in the sand somewhere

If there's money to be made, and there is as far as Kurt is concerned, Vince or HHH will put egos aside. Not to say they won't bury the shit out of him afterward, but he'll be back.

 

[edge4ever]

I agree if Triple H or Vince knows that odds are in favor of Kurt selling tickets....they'll bring him back.

 

[Trip in the Head]

Angle vs Sting??? Has that ever happened before?

EDIT: Its called the internet dummy, and yes, it has happened before :facepalm1:

 

[CM Punk]

Angle vs Sting??? Has that ever happened before?

EDIT: Its called the internet dummy, and yes, it has happened before :facepalm1:

lol'd.

 

[Red Rain]

no just saying that it's a business and they all have their pro's and con's. I'm tired of people not taking responsibility for their contract and obligations to a company. This is not to say that a company can't be unfair at times and not have everything you'd like it to have. But if it was really that bad, superstars, especially veterans, wouldn't stick around.

Completely agree on fulfilling obligations.
Punk and Lesnar were wrong for walking out on the company that supported them so heavily.