Kurt Angle says "Punk isn't top 10"

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I see a wrestler as a total performer, that's why I rate Punk!
 

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My point was the IWC as a whole is mad for Punk. He is probably the face of the IWC, if you don't include Jericho and Bryan ofc. Punk deserves it though.

As for Angle's point, Angle is a better wrestler, Punk is a better superstar. That's my opinion. Punk > Angle in big time storylines. Which puts him above angle in the PWI top 10 -- again -- my opinion.
 

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See here I disagree with Crayo yes Punk better mic wise but he aint up there yet with the feuds, titles, battles, stories Angle had imo!
 

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Gimmicky Gimmick is gimmicky. Opinions are what make the community, my laugh is at most of the posters who insult/joke on Angle for posting it, he clearly is still butthurt over the TNA insult, which for some reason everyone jumped on and loved. Hypocrites.
 

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THEAidsJohnson said:
Gimmicky Gimmick is gimmicky

What...?

@Cloud: Angle was booked into GOOD storylines. If there was a storyline on the table made from creative, I'd want Punk to have it 9 times out of 10 (ofc depending on the storyline). That was the point I was trying to make lol.

Angle is still damn good, but he's not the same as he was years ago in that situation.
 

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U said Punk>Angle in big storylines?

Which i disagreed with as Angle huge and put over like a true champ. I just feel Punk not there yet!
 

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@Crayo: Get Seabs in here. Lets come up with 10 WWE/TNA/ROH wrestlers better than Punk.

Hmm... Bryan, Ziggler, Christian, Rey (discounting his moveset), Styles, Joe, Aries, Daniels, Angle, Steen?
 

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Cloud said:
U said Punk>Angle in big storylines?

Which i disagreed with as Angle huge and put over like a true champ. I just feel Punk not there yet!

I meant hypothetical storylines. Not storylines from the past. I mean for example if creative said we have a storyline for someone to interrupt Vince McMahon, take him out, and then the week after give an explanation revealing a revolution. I would much prefer Punk be the guy who headlines that storyline than Kurt Angle, for numerous reasons.

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@Crayo: Get Seabs in here. Lets come up with 10 WWE/TNA/ROH wrestlers better than Punk.

Hmm... Bryan, Ziggler, Christian, Rey (discounting his moveset), Styles, Joe, Aries, Daniels, Angle, Steen?

There's definitely a lot of better wrestlers than Punk, he's overrated in that department by his fans but underrated by his haters. He's still a world class wrestler.

All of those listed above are better in the ring though, you could definitely add quite a few more names to be honest

@Aids: You think Bully is a better WRESTLER than Punk? Lmfao
 

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My point! However I think Punk will break that barrier! heyman?
 

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THEAidsJohnson said:
Roode, Bully, Y2J also.

Forgot Bully. Bully > Rey. Maybe Tyson too

Would have counted Y2J had him still been in WWE.

Crayo, good call.
 

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Thought we were going total package. I'll change bully for AA, Y2j is gone for a while but is far from done. I would say he is top 20 all time if you go whole deal, but honestly his match vs cena was forgettable at best. ADR > Punk at wrestling IMO.
 

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This is where the term wrestler comes in to debate is it in ring ability? or mic work? or what that sends someone to the top ten?