Knights of the Old Republic Mafia - Game Thread

[Ace]

um is that flay thing a copypasta or is it legit

 

[Tweet]

it would be a lot with lethal as well. Should he not also be in the pile with Tweet flipping town?

I thought you two had sort of an understanding of each others role during n1, why would you wanna throw THAT role back into POE?

 

[Big Man]

um is that flay thing a copypasta or is it legit

looks like he typed out a DT interview.

 

[Doddsy]

ye im just saying we cant say there's definitely a vig as its not been shown yet, which means we cant really say jeff/chimp are scum even if doddsy also has a kill

pretty sure i have foregone a vig before and spread some 1x kills around instead

Answer: I definitely have a kill

Cash money, Heffrey? Stealing Doddsy’s gimmick.

Retaliation:

Hmm. I'm not really sure where to go. I like the Alco wagon for sure but my gut tells me to go Doddsy with the information we all have.

Query: Do you actually have anything to back up on that meatbag?

Seriously what the fuck Poyser? At least let Doddsy talk so I can potentially catch him in a lie.

Answer: You were never going to catch me in a lie on that. I was never claiming vig, why would I say that's scummy immediately?

tbf assuming doddsy was vig was a bit generous as he explicitly said his role was scummy on d1. unless u think that was just for fun he said that

Answer: Correct

no i just forgot about that. he said it on page 1, but indicating one of you or chimp is scum made me think he had a killing role because role overlap makes the most sense for that conclusion to be made.

Declaration: I do indeed have a killing role that overlaps

Right well if Doddsy does have a killing role then there probably definitely is scum in jeff and chimp lol (or indy whatever)

Statement: I didn't say it for funsies you dense organics

myeah. I dunno man, I read the guy fkin town every game and hes scum every game so I dunno how doddsy fkin works lol

Declaration:

Question: Why are you Kreia Aligned and not Republic Aligned bro?

Vote Smark

...

Because I'm a survivor.

Statement:

why would I stall lol, that wouldn't do me any favors.

I'm Jolee Bindo and I'm a busdriver. I drove the Big Man with TKOK last night. I was counting on the Big Man getting shot N1

Declaration: Why did I forget Jolee Bindo existed?

 

[Showtime]

Firstly, you don't only look at the main people on a wagon, sometimes subtle interactions are just as important so implying that there isn't value to doing that doesn't fly with me.

Secondly 'burying my ability to read alco' (read - not trusting it enough to place it above the other discussions in the thread) wasn't for no reason, I've made it perfectly clear how I approach my own reads early-game (put them out there, but don't particularly push others to follow them).

Thirdly, if we play by your scenario where alco flips scum, i'd argue its gone down far from how I would play it as scum.

you even highlighted my willingness to bus teammates so if anything i'd have been more inclined to make said bus convincing rather than keeping quiet about him until someone else tried to start a wagon/push.

I'm not reading back on my MVP scum game for you too as I REALLY need to go to bed but I'm pretty sure I recall repeatedly bringing up the scummates I was bussing of my own accord - precisely because it was easiest to bring them up and distance when other people weren't particularly focused on them, as this meant I wouldn't actually be pushing them into a lynch, but would ultimately look good (arguably better) when they flipped.

in the bold, i recall you being the second or third on one of your scum teammate's wagons and it made you look good enough people never pursued you and cited that exact reasoning.

id rather have you play, read the thread, and formulate your own reads and impressions than continuously defend yourself from me too. you've made your points and ill go look at the town games you cited, but i dont like your play any more than i did previously. if poyser was making bad reads it is easy for scum to literally latch onto them because he's loud enough he'd get most of the blame for it. i do agree you dont just look at the main people on the wagon, but that's just generally how it goes.

 

[Laughable Chimp]

this is most of ace's day 1 play and i know yall dont read big ass posts so let me summarize this best i can:

from the start of the game ace goes at alco for being suss(initially for fluff and then disagreeing in regards to jeff). he then votes tweet because poyser is leading that charge and goes along with that.

he votes jeff for the votes thing.

then chimp asks ace why he's not voting anyone and he clarifies he just doesn't vote anyone on day 1 and it's surprising he voted anyone at all given this, but he legit sussed alco the whole time. in particular this interaction with poyser:





you ask poyser his thoughts on alco, he says null, and then you casually ruin your own credibility in your ability to read alco. there's no real reason for you to do this as you don't drop your suspicion of him and the poster after poyser defends alco a bit and you like that post.

you again go after tweet and then when he doesn't get lynched you say "good thing we got vig at least and the shot won't be in the dark".

through most of this, outside of alco, you literally do not give town reads but hedge a lot. even with tweet you tell him you're not convinced he's scum, but you do want the vig to take him out even though he is a tracker and perhaps that info could have been useful, no? in the chimp/brutus duel you basically say neither look scum to you and you're sure one will flip town.

day 2 starts and you say the tweet wagon should be looked at but you dont do this and hope someone else does it. you again make these hedge posts that aren't reads, but just declaring how guys may not be scum for various reasons(like jeff having to post his role in the thread).


finally poyser votes alco and you announce with excitement that you're happy that someone else finally saw alco as scummy and join the wagon almost immediately. why didn't you vote alco yourself at the start of the phase considering he was your only other scum read outside of tweet and the one you were pushing all game. instead you only vote him AFTER poyser starts the wagon.



so to be 100% clear, @Jeff Valley Driver, ace is not on the right side of things with alco because his words betray his actions. he calls him scum yet doesnt pursue, but happily joins when someone else starts the wagon. again the last time i went pretty far in a game ace did something similar where he immediately joined his teammate's wagon and people said he looked good for it and he had sussed his other teammates as well. ace will not make things happen against his teammates, but will distance himself from them nearly all game.

TLDR

 

[Ace]

looks like he typed out a DT interview.

i know this is meant to be an answer but at least for me it really isn't :

 

[Big Man]

Answer: I definitely have a kill


Retaliation:
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Query: Do you actually have anything to back up on that meatbag?



Answer: You were never going to catch me in a lie on that. I was never claiming vig, why would I say that's scummy immediately?


Answer: Correct


Declaration: I do indeed have a killing role that overlaps


Statement: I didn't say it for funsies you dense organics


Declaration:



Statement:



Declaration: Why did I forget Jolee Bindo existed?

so who do you want to lynch then?

 

[Doddsy]

Statement: I concur on the earlier Phenom push I was planning on the same, but we probably will have to table that until tomorrow

 

[Poyser]

Chimps cruising for a bruising imo

 

[Doddsy]

so who do you want to lynch then?

Answer: I'm fine with Alco probably I don't really buy the usage. Why make that move on day 1 you know? I also doubt he's unlimited so he would have had to dedicate one of his shots to a random chance. Yeah.

Vote Alco

I'm happy with to terminate this meatbag for you all

 

[Big Man]

i know this is meant to be an answer but at least for me it really isn't :

 

[Showtime]

@Doddsy can you use your kill?

 

[Ace]

in the bold, i recall you being the second or third on one of your scum teammate's wagons and it made you look good enough people never pursued you and cited that exact reasoning.

id rather have you play, read the thread, and formulate your own reads and impressions than continuously defend yourself from me too. you've made your points and ill go look at the town games you cited, but i dont like your play any more than i did previously. if poyser was making bad reads it is easy for scum to literally latch onto them because he's loud enough he'd get most of the blame for it. i do agree you dont just look at the main people on the wagon, but that's just generally how it goes.

I'm pretty sure I was initiating scumreads on people or at the very least offering unique arguments to strengthen the case against them rather than going along with the grain but w/e.

and to your main point i will indeed be formulating more of my own stuff and being more aggressive around it as the game gets deeper as is literally always the case with me lol

But yeah I'm MORE Than happy to stop defending myself against you since i REALLY need to sleep

 

[Doddsy]

Chimps cruising for a bruising imo

Query: Excuse me Poyser I reported a post to you why did you take no action. Already slacking in your mod duties

@Doddsy can you use your kill?

Answer: I can at this moment. But it ends day