Is there a potential new top babyface on the current roster?

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Rain said:
Another thread stolen by KLockard23. Such an incredible poster.


Riley's the first guy that comes to mind, he just has that obvious star power that everyone seems to see except WWE. Seriously believe Cena was worried that he'd take his spot. Ryback seems like a good World Heavyweight Champion, but top-top guy?

Ziggler I just see as "too awesome to boo but if he turns face Creative would f*ck him up beyond repair". And for some reason Titus O'Neil comes to mind... no idea why

Yeah I'm not sure why I have faith in Ryback, but I can see it. Why? If he's booked like the outlaw badass (similar to Austin) he could be huge. He doesn't even need to speak often. I don't think he'd carry them as much as Cena can because there is so much that Cena does that Ryback couldn't do on the same level (promos, media etc), but he could be a huge draw imo.
 

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Crayo said:
I don't think Ziggler will at all to be honest.

Ryback has potential to if booked properly. Funnily enough I think the same of Alex Riley as well.

I know for a fact he won't be it, just saying he could easily be the potential new top babyface, which is what the topic asked. He has everything you need in reality to do it, but just not the size that Vince would want.
 
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Dolph'sZiggler said:
I know for a fact he won't be it, just saying he could easily be the potential new top babyface, which is what the topic asked. He has everything you need in reality to do it, but just not the size that Vince would want.

Even if he had WWE's backing, I just don't see him ever reaching the super over babyface stage. I'm not sure why, I just don't think he has it in him.
 

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Can't argue with that reasoning :pity2:
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
I know for a fact he won't be it, just saying he could easily be the potential new top babyface, which is what the topic asked. He has everything you need in reality to do it, but just not the size that Vince would want.

I don't think his size is much of a problem. It's not like he's short and the size of a cruiserweight or something. Austin himself wasn't the biggest guy that was ever on the roster. He was barely six feet, and if he were standing ten feet away from you, he would look like a mostly average sized guy. He actually had more muscle after coming back in 2003 and after retiring (look at him at WM20) than he had during his entire run at the top of the WWF, and yet he was the savior of the company in the late 90's.

WWE's problems with Ziggler (if they have such a problem) probably have to do with my own. I see him as a baby face on the level of someone like Shawn Michaels more so than the top draws who end up carrying the company on their backs for 5-10 years.
 

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HBK was the man from 95 until he left after WM 15 though.
 

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(Wrestlemania 14.)

But he was never the top face that carried the company on his back for the stretch of an entire era. The "New Generation" era didn't really have anyone like that, since wrestling was pretty cold at the time and they were just switching the belt to anyone (Bret, Michaels, Diesel, etc.) just to see who would draw the best.
 

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I'm just a sexy boy, i'm not your boy toy. HBK was god when i was a kid.
 

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KLockard23 said:
(Wrestlemania 14.)

But he was never the top face that carried the company on his back for the stretch of an entire era. The "New Generation" era didn't really have anyone like that, since wrestling was pretty cold at the time and they were just switching the belt to anyone (Bret, Michaels, Diesel, etc.) just to see who would draw the best.

Not every face of the company is going to be Hogan or Cena in terms of longevity. SCSA was really only on top for a short period of time before he was surpassed by Rocky and detailed by injuries, does that mean he wasn't worthy of being considered the face of the company?
 

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Dolph'sZiggler said:
Not every face of the company is going to be Hogan or Cena in terms of longevity. SCSA was really only on top for a short period of time before he was surpassed by Rocky and detailed by injuries, does that mean he wasn't worthy of being considered the face of the company?

Of course Michaels was the face of the company in 1996, but my point was that Austin and Rock were definitely the stand out guys that lead the era and that the WWE would always rely on as the top guys unless someone better (or just as good) came along. In the mid-90's (considered the dark ages of the WWF), there wasn't any one guy like that that they could definitely count on as the top draw. They were trying out anyone who would draw the best. In the AE, once they found such a person (Austin/Rock), they knew who the top guys were.

I don't even know why it was brought up, the point of the thread is asking who the next top baby face and my point is, Michaels isn't on the level of the holy trinity (Hogan/Austin/Rock) or even on the level of Cena as far as the impact one has on an entire era, and I thus see Ziggler being more of the Shawn Michaels role than the top draw role that the other guys are. He could probably do anywhere from decent to pretty damn good for a short time but not someone I see WWE trusting to put their entire company behind as a guy they think could carry it for the next 5-8 years or so. You could also put him on Jericho's level in that sense (actually, he's probably a better comparison than Michaels.)
 

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ThreeXBetterThanU said:
Its hard for nee to see Ziggler as anything other than a heel. He plays that role well, but i see the talent he has, so he could possibly be that guy.

Personally, i wanted that guy to be Cody Rhodes, but that's just my wet dream (minus the mustache).

~Three Said That~

Cody Rhodes has the face, but I don't think he has the start power, at least not yet.

I was thinking something along the lines of Daniel Bryan or even Punk turned into an underdog face. Though, I doubt they'd use their "ugly mugs" as the face of the WWE. They both wanna be The Guy, so why the hell not, I guess, lmfao.
 

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Oh my.. :pity:

How can I forget Alex Riley...:damnn:

Tbh, this dude has the package. Looks, charisma, can talk, in-ring skill, over with the crowd, etc...

But... John Cena.. Dammit...:downer:

Hope they can clean the mess up, because IF it does happen, good things will come.
 

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Riley maybe, the guy has the look and is great on the mic, but he's also ridiculously misused so probably not.
 

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Wouldn't mind if Reigns would be the man.

Dude has a good look, and has ''the business'' look.